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Australian Test Selection Thread 2017 - 2018

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For mine it's a toss up between Patto and Cummins. I'd go Patto but you'd be equally happy with Cummins.
 

Red

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- Worked ok for 1980's West Indies, and I can't see any reason it couldn't work here
- Why couldn't Maxwell just do that job of a spinner by himself? If you have 4 quicks firing you don't need your spinner to bowl 25 overs a day and take a 5-for

This is all assuming it's not a real turning/slow wicket where are specialist spinner would be more than useful.
Just playing devils advocate.

It surprises me in this argument re. 4 quicks vs 3 quicks plus best available spinner, that people seem to forget the ball gets old.
 

TheJediBrah

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Starc and Hazlewood are and I think Pattinson is there too on current form. Cummins isn't far behind either.
This. Pattinson clear number 4 (I don't care how many 2nd div CC sides he's wrecked) and by picking 4 quicks, you're trading wicket-taking (and injury) potential for a proven Test wicket-taker who also happens to be able to do a job if necessary.

I love watching all four but, for now, the selectors will chooose three. Right now, correctly, Pattinson is out.
wait wut. If anything Pattinson is the clear best of the 4 IMO, and that has nothing to do with whatever he's been doing in Britain this winter. He's always been the best and most destructive when not ****ed up with injuries.

Putting Cummins ahead of Pattinson is nuts

It surprises me in this argument re. 4 quicks vs 3 quicks plus best available spinner, that people seem to forget the ball gets old.
Fast bowlers can't bowl with the old ball? No that's irrelevant. The over rate thing is the real issue.
 
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Midwinter

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According to a weekend paper contract offers have been sent to the top 5 players

Smith, Warne, Starc, Hazlewood and... Cummins.
 

Prince EWS

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CA are so obsessed with Cummins it's starting to get weird
I thought this at first too, but when you think about it he's the only guy (aside from the other four who also got top five offers) who'd probably make the first XI in all three formats. Maxwell is the only other one you could make an argument for and I think they might have seen his Test selection in India as a horses for courses thing rather than a genuine first XI for all conditions thing.
 

mr_mister

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Dammit keep Maxwell in so he can cash in during the cruisy aussie summer like everyone else. Don't just throw him into the hardest conditions we play in (subcontinent) watch him succeed then toss him into the scrap heap

I'll be so annoyed if he doesn't play at the gabba
 

stephen

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Australia has the best kind of problem to have with our fast bowling attack right now. If we can get contracts signed.
 

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Fast bowlers can't bowl with the old ball?
Of course they can bowl with the old ball. Whether they are threatening with it, or whether they are canon fodder with it, are the issues.

Balls get old, pitches deteriorate. Cricket isn't all played on day 1 with a new ball. Four quicks aren't gonna manage this...

 

NUFAN

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I thought this at first too, but when you think about it he's the only guy (aside from the other four who also got top five offers) who'd probably make the first XI in all three formats. Maxwell is the only other one you could make an argument for and I think they might have seen his Test selection in India as a horses for courses thing rather than a genuine first XI for all conditions thing.
Matthew Wade could potentially be close to that fifth spot too. Obviously a less ***y selection though.
 

Burgey

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Of course they can bowl with the old ball. Whether they are threatening with it, or whether they are canon fodder with it, are the issues.

Balls get old, pitches deteriorate. Cricket isn't all played on day 1 with a new ball. Four quicks aren't gonna manage this...

Brings a tear to TJB's eye. WPNCOS doing his thing.
 

TheJediBrah

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Of course they can bowl with the old ball. Whether they are threatening with it, or whether they are canon fodder with it, are the issues.

Balls get old, pitches deteriorate. Cricket isn't all played on day 1 with a new ball. Four quicks aren't gonna manage this...
As I said multiple times, 4 quicks when appropriate.

That was a day match at Adelaide. Obviously a sensible decision to play a spinner.
 

Shady Slim

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think if you had to drop one of the quarter strictly speaking it's patto or starc

but starc i don't think they'll drop, hazlewood easily the best of the four and i feel good about commies if he can stay on the park
 

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