All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[Coronis]

Currently:

Donald - 9
Trueman - 6
Holding - 5
Garner - 4
Bumrah - 4
Davidson - 3

This one will be quite interesting I feel.

C’mon guys, R/L of D&D with the Big Bird as the third. Lets make it happen.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Surprised Faulkner is 5 up and Botham has none

 

[DrWolverine]

 

[Coronis]

Really think Waugh should be at 6. Then we’ve got 3 blokes to share as the 5th option depending on the pitch and batsmen (Chappell, Root, Waugh) and great batting all the way down there.

Think the spinner spot could generate many variable votes.

Grimmett, Verity, Laker, Tayfield, Ashwin

Not sure there has ever been super clear consensus on these blokes for number 4 spinner of all time and all are good options.

Ashwin might be the best selection for this particular team if people plan to select Garner (for his batting) as first change.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Really think Waugh should be at 6. Then we’ve got 3 blokes to share as the 5th option depending on the pitch and batsmen (Chappell, Root, Waugh) and great batting all the way down there.

Agree. If Simpson is picked as he should be, that then gives an even better 5th option.

 

[Coronis]

Agree. If Simpson is picked as he should be, that then gives an even better 5th option.

That’s fair too. I’ve gone with Boycott/Smith for the contrasting styles, and since I think Boycott is well clear of the remaining openers, and Smith I’d take over the next lot of aggressors

 

[Johan]

Trueman won? Before Bumrah, Holding, Garner, Lindwall and Davidson? GOD IS GOOD

 

[kyear2]

Really think Waugh should be at 6. Then we’ve got 3 blokes to share as the 5th option depending on the pitch and batsmen (Chappell, Root, Waugh) and great batting all the way down there.

Think the spinner spot could generate many variable votes.

Grimmett, Verity, Laker, Tayfield, Ashwin

Not sure there has ever been super clear consensus on these blokes for number 4 spinner of all time and all are good options.

Ashwin might be the best selection for this particular team if people plan to select Garner (for his batting) as first change.

Don't think 3 people sharing the 5th bowling spot is a good idea, especially those 3.
More on that below.

Gibbs should very much be in that group of spinners in contention for 4th. He featured in quite a few All Time teams before Warne and Murali emerged.

Agree. If Simpson is picked as he should be, that then gives an even better 5th option.

Yeah Simpson is a good option, so is Barlow, one of those 3 way players like Simpson, Hammond, Sobers and Kallis.

Another option would be Worrell, the best remaining bat of the all round options and bring the addition of captaincy instead.

 

[Coronis]

My logic for this last round for the team..

Garner - I might rather Davidson, but Davidson struggled immensely when first change behind Lindwall and Miller - this was obviously exclusively during the early part of his career, which no doubt had a big effect on that but still its the evidence we have. On the other hand, Garner is the best first change bowler ever (Cummins will have this in big question at some point)

Walcott - With Faulkner, we definitely need a keeper who can bat, you’d think Flower would be a good shot but yeah.. we all know about his keeping. Walcott was a far more talented bat than Ames, whilst also being a quality keeper. Ames’ batting was truly exposed in Australia, and whose test average flatters him.

I’d prefer Walcott as a batsmen generally, similar to Sangakkara, but then again, since Sangakkara’s selection I’ve pondered on how I should select…

Should I automatically select the player who fits best? Or should I take into consideration positioning and balance for the next XI? (e.g with guys like Sanga and Walcott)

I’m choosing to go with the first

 

[OverratedSanity]

It's probably between de Villiers and Waite for me.

 

[Cricket Bliss]

Healy should get selected
having Boycott, Richards and Ponting at the top order
middle order comprises of Root and Faulkner
Ashwin is at 8 and most probably Davidson would also get selected, there is a batting depth and till no.5 all are ATG or at best ATVG… so more emphasis on better wicket keeper would be fine, top against pure fast, swing and spin.

 

[capt_Luffy]

My logic for this last round for the team..

Garner - I might rather Davidson, but Davidson struggled immensely when first change behind Lindwall and Miller - this was obviously exclusively during the early part of his career, which no doubt had a big effect on that but still its the evidence we have. On the other hand, Garner is the best first change bowler ever (Cummins will have this in big question at some point)

Walcott - With Faulkner, we definitely need a keeper who can bat, you’d think Flower would be a good shot but yeah.. we all know about his keeping. Walcott was a far more talented bat than Ames, whilst also being a quality keeper. Ames’ batting was truly exposed in Australia, and whose test average flatters him.

I’d prefer Walcott as a batsmen generally, similar to Sangakkara, but then again, since Sangakkara’s selection I’ve pondered on how I should select…

Should I automatically select the player who fits best? Or should I take into consideration positioning and balance for the next XI? (e.g with guys like Sanga and Walcott)

I’m choosing to go with the first

I feel Faulkner is a proper top 6 batter though. And especially since Ames isn't a bunny, and we have Ashwin and potentially Davidson ar the tail

 

[Coronis]

I feel Faulkner is a proper top 6 batter though. And especially since Ames isn't a bunny, and we have Ashwin and potentially Davidson ar the tail

Yeah… so Walcott is a better choice than Ames…

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yeah… so Walcott is a better choice than Ames…

Ames' a much better keeper though

 

[Thala_0710]

Ames' a much better batter though

*keeper

 

[CricAddict]

South Africa started late at only World B but the count has sprung up quickly.

England	10​
Australia	12​
India	3​
West Indies	6​
New Zealand	1​
Srilanka	2​
Pakistan	2​
South Africa	6​

World XI	World A	World B	World C
England	India	England	England
England	England	Australia	South Africa
Australia	England	West Indies	Australia
India	West Indies	South Africa	Australia
West Indies	Australia	South Africa	England
West Indies	Srilanka	Australia	South Africa
Australia	Australia	England	7​
New Zealand	Pakistan	Pakistan	India
West Indies	West Indies	Australia	9​
Australia	England	Australia	England
Australia	Srilanka	South Africa	South Africa

 

[Coronis]

Ames' a much better keeper though

Is he? From all the anecdotal evidence Walcott was a very quality keeper. Based on what I’ve heard I’d have him in the same tier as guys like Gilly and Sanga.

 

[DrWolverine]

 

[DrWolverine]

Boycott & Richards is such a contrasting pair.

 

[DrWolverine]

I wish Holding gets selected.

Allan Donald, Fred Trueman & Michael Holding Holding will be one scary lineup. Very aggressive pacers.