Johan
Hall of Fame Member
@Prince EWS help us with Barnes.
This has never been fully fleshed out tbh.Tough to lose games when you are churning out hundreds and double hundreds for fun. But how did you know that Bradman was one of the finest tactical brains?
Hopefully some new multis to seal this.Ambrose has basically sealed his position, Steyn vs Barnes will go right down to the wire
Heaven forbid we reward winning.Back to this nonsense glorification.
Don't you think that has something to do with the fact that McGrath simply played in a better team?Heaven forbid we reward winning.
McGrath trained all those players himself and made them who they were. Ponting, Warne, Gilchrist, Waugh would have all been ATVGs or worse if McGrath didn’t exist. (Maybe this is kyears logic)Don't you think that has something to do with the fact that McGrath simply played in a better team?
McGrath taught Ponting how to bat?McGrath trained all those players himself and made them who they were. Ponting, Warne, Gilchrist, Waugh would have all been ATVGs or worse if McGrath didn’t exist. (Maybe this is kyears logic)
Mcgrath did have an outsized imapact.Don't you think that has something to do with the fact that McGrath simply played in a better team?
Taking batsmen, not pundits and journalists.much slower, less flashy, less entertaining to watch, wasn't a psycho trying to hurt people or whatever bullshit that passed as macho back in the day.
same with them, I would much rather face Hadlee than Lillee.Taking batsmen, not pundits and journalists.
Pretty sure Imran and Hadlee had more impact on their team fortunes.Mcgrath did have an outsized imapact.
During McGrath's career:
When McGrath played - Aus W/L 4.2
When McGrath did not play - Aus W/L 2.2
In same period,
When Warne played - Aus W/L - 3.8
When Warne did not paly - Aus W/L 3
Absence of McGrath brought down Aus team by a very large margin.
No one had a bigger impact on team than HadleePretty sure Imran and Hadlee had more impact on their team fortunes.
His captaincy often gets glossed over due to the focus on his batting, as one might expect. Its hard to find much of an article mentioning too much about his captaincy, let alone one focusing on it. Perhaps @peterhrt would know more.This has never been fully fleshed out tbh.
I gave you the list you requested with regards to McGrath.Pretty sure Imran and Hadlee had more impact on their team fortunes.
Kyear is just giving extra points for being a member of a superior team. Which is odd because McGrath objectively had a much easier job as a bowler compared to almost any ATG pacer in history outside Marshall.
You can't mention a list you posted after I had already replied to you on this point.I gave you the list you requested with regards to McGrath.
But you focus on the line you can attack.
Watching Bumrah has clearly illustrated the benefits and downsides of being in such an attack.
It's not quite the negative it's made out to be.
Also, being the best bowler in an attack means you make life easier for the rest, not the other way round.
No. Because winning is the goal of the entire exercise.You can't mention a list you posted after I had already replied to you on this point.
If winning impact is your criteria, it makes no sense to give the preference to McGrath.
You just want to support strong teams because they look shinier.
I just pulled results for only IK. I did not bother to look for Hadlee.Pretty sure Imran and Hadlee had more impact on their team fortunes.
Kyear is just giving extra points for being a member of a superior team. Which is odd because McGrath objectively had a much easier job as a bowler compared to almost any ATG pacer in history outside Marshall.
So Ponting > Lara?No. Because winning is the goal of the entire exercise.
There's a reason Brady is the GOAT and not Marino.
Kareem and not Wilt, or Jordan and not Lebron, Duncan and not Malone.