All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[Pothas]

Grace was voted in at 4th too though in the same poll

I always just assume this is for Tests in which case there isn't really any reason to include Grace. If it is all cricket ever played he gets in easily.

 

[DrWolverine]

What happens if Bumrah ends his career with 300+ wickets at a sub 20 average?

 

[subshakerz]

It's a really terrible idea to be overly restrictive in these things.

Your suggestion seems to enforce a team balance where there is exactly one bowling all-rounder, and they are a pacer. Sure, maybe most people agree with that for this team. But there's going to be people who want no bowling all-rounders, people who want two bowling all-rounders and asking for a #8 makes the whole thing become a mess. Personally I might respond Knott!

No we can debate and decide these things and team makeup beforehand.

My suggestion is simply to vote based on batting position from 1 to 11.

 

[capt_Luffy]

No we can debate and decide these things and team makeup beforehand.

My suggestion is simply to vote based on batting position from 1 to 11.

I just don't think that works. Way too restrictive and overtly complicated.

 

[Thala_0710]

Most people voting now do realize that 3 pacers are going to get selected (in what ever order). You vote for 2 now, whoever you consider most essential, and whether or not to include any secondary skills is upto you....
Now when the first 2 have gotten selected, you vote for the third one based on what works best now for the XI

 

[capt_Luffy]

I always just assume this is for Tests in which case there isn't really any reason to include Grace. If it is all cricket ever played he gets in easily.

I generally go with the best player in such teams.

 

[sayon basak]

No we can debate and decide these things and team makeup beforehand.

My suggestion is simply to vote based on batting position from 1 to 11.

Luffy has been running threads like this for a decent amount of time. He has run all the country XI's threads. This was never seen as a problem.

 

[subshakerz]

What happens if Bumrah ends his career with 300+ wickets at a sub 20 average?

He should be there then.

The big problem with the final ATG XI is an underrepresentation of Asians overall.

Heck I would have voted Murali over Warne if I knew it was going to be like that.

 

[DrWolverine]

Grace will always divide people.

He played test cricket between 1880-1999.

Literally no one who played cricket in 19th century gets picked in ATG teams.

 

[Bolo.]

No we can debate and decide these things and team makeup beforehand.

My suggestion is simply to vote based on batting position from 1 to 11.

IIRC, someone tried it that way once and the results were horrible.

 

[Thala_0710]

I always just assume this is for Tests in which case there isn't really any reason to include Grace. If it is all cricket ever played he gets in easily.

I think it's all red ball cricket being played with whatever weights you want to tests and FC.... Plus if it's just test cricket only too, he surely can still get in too?

 

[DrWolverine]

The big problem with the final ATG XI is an underrepresentation of Asians overall.

I have 4 Asian cricketers in my ATG 11 for now.
Gavaskar. Sachin. Murali. Imran.

 

[Thala_0710]

IIRC, someone tried it that way once and the results were horrible.

They would definitely be... I think the current way works best

 

[sayon basak]

He played test cricket between 1880-1999.

Literally no one who played cricket in 19th century gets picked in ATG teams.

They will, Spofforth, Lohmann, Shrewsbury etc will make it in the future XI's.

 

[DrWolverine]

They will, Spofforth, Lohmann, Shrewsbury etc will make it in the future XI's.

That’s fine.

Just curious to see the reasoning of Spofforth over Steyn or Lohmann over Bumrah.

 

[centurymaker]

Marshall, Hadlee and Imran/Akram would be a good fit

I wouldn't really go with Marshall Hadlee Imran as they belong to the exact same era. 1980s.

I'd go- Marshall, McGrath, Imran/Wasim

 

[Thala_0710]

That’s fine.

Just curious to see the reasoning of Spofforth over Steyn or Lohmann over Bumrah.

They aren't going to be that high, but they will make it at some point

 

[sayon basak]

That’s fine.

Just curious to see the reasoning of Spofforth over Steyn or Lohmann over Bumrah.

Umm, who are you referring to? Literally nobody has these opinions.

 

[DrWolverine]

Marshall. Hadlee. Bumrah.
Future pace attack?

 

[subshakerz]

Most people voting now do realize that 3 pacers are going to get selected (in what ever order). You vote for 2 now, whoever you consider most essential, and whether or not to include any secondary skills is upto you....
Now when the first 2 have gotten selected, you vote for the third one based on what works best now for the XI

Why not vote three pacers up front then?

Anyways I disagree.