All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[Line and Length]

I think the second XI attack may end up being a better one than the first XI. Martians will be happy.

Not only does the first XI attack lack reverse, they lack pace/fear factor. Marshall is the only one who is scary fast.

On fear/pace factor, the ATG pair was Lillee/Thomson

 

[Thala_0710]

It's really between Barnes, Steyn and Ambrose... Even if Imran misses out in this round, he'll make it as the third pacer pretty easily

 

[sayon basak]

It's really between Barnes, Steyn and Ambrose... Even if Imran misses out in this round, he'll make it as the third pacer pretty easily

Yeah, It'll most likely be Imran/Ambrose/Steyn.

 

[Thala_0710]

Yeah, It'll most likely be Imran/Ambrose/Steyn.

Steyn vs Barnes should be close

 

[Thala_0710]

Just changed to Barnes. Does it do anything?

So far-
Barnes: 9
Imran: 8
Steyn: 9
Ambrose: 12
Lillee: 2
Bumrah: 1
Miller: 1

 

[DrWolverine]

So far-
Barnes: 9
Imran: 8
Steyn: 8
Ambrose: 12

So top 6 fast bowlers are :
Marshall. Hadlee. McGrath.
Ambrose. Steyn. Imran.
As expected. Barnes is the party pooper

 

[Thala_0710]

Meanwhile, Gavaskar and Sutcliffe have already wrapped up the opening spots

 

[DrWolverine]

Meanwhile, Gavaskar and Sutcliffe have already wrapped up the opening spots

Third team openers.
It will be more interesting.

 

[Thala_0710]

Third team openers.
It will be more interesting.

Expect at least 6-7 different guys to get votes

 

[Prince EWS]

Third team openers.
It will be more interesting.

More people will be willing to consider Grace and Richards that far down. I'll probably cast a lone vote for Bruce Mitchell.

 

[Coronis]

That is what makes it redundant.

We should have voted as per the position in batting order. I think it would have been more interesting if we are asked to vote for Hadlee or Imran for the no.8 spot.

Whilst that’s how XIs are listed, I doubt very much any first class or test XI was ever selected in this manner.

 

[Thala_0710]

More people will be willing to consider Grace and Richards that far down. I'll probably cast a lone vote for Bruce Mitchell.

Grace, Richards, Mitchell, Boycott, Greenidge, Trumper, Smith, Hayden all of them could get voted next round

 

[DrWolverine]

Expect at least 6-7 different guys to get votes

Trumper. Simpson. Boycott. Greenidge. Smith. Hayden. Cook and maybe Barry gets in as well.

 

[Prince EWS]

Whilst that’s how XIs are listed, I doubt very much any first class or test XI was ever selected in this manner.

Luffy makes educated guesses on what the contentions will be and orders it in a particular way to try and make the team reflect that. People can break ranks and vote for different combinations if they disagree - someone voted for Murali as a third pacer and someone voted for Imran as a middle order batsman for example - so I think it's the most sensible way. There's no perfect way to resolve it but I think this is the closest/fairest.

We often end up with "pick two more players to finish the team" after we've picked a top 5, a keeper and three bowlers for example. Didn't happen this time just because of Sobers.

 

[morgieb]

Grace, Richards, Mitchell, Boycott, Greenidge, Trumper, Smith, Hayden all of them could get voted next round

Yeah depends on what we were judging. Guys with minimal Test careers because of factors out of their control (Richards and Proctor probably being the two really big ones) and guys who's reputation stems a lot from FC cricket (Grace and to a lesser extent Larwood) I always find tough to judge in stuff like this. Hell, I'm never confident on judging pre-WWI players full stop.

 

[Prince EWS]

Yeah depends on what we were judging. Guys with minimal Test careers because of factors out of their control (Richards and Proctor probably being the two really big ones) and guys who's reputation stems a lot from FC cricket (Grace and to a lesser extent Larwood) I always find tough to judge in stuff like this. Hell, I'm never confident on judging pre-WWI players full stop.

I don't think Richards or Grace will win next round but they'll definitely get some votes. Grace is already getting votes.

 

[Coronis]

Luffy makes educated guesses on what the contentions will be and orders it in a particular way to try and make the team reflect that. People can break ranks and vote for different combinations if they disagree - someone voted for Murali as a third pacer and someone voted for Imran as a middle order batsman for example - so I think it's the most sensible way. There's no perfect way to resolve it but I think this is the closest/fairest.

We often end up with "pick two more players to finish the team" after we've picked a top 5, a keeper and three bowlers for example. Didn't happen this time just because of Sobers.

Hell it could be changed to

2 openers
2 bowlers
keeper

As the opening savvy for a team, and go from there. People might select their spinner first, and they’re assured of the keeper’s batting ability, which makes the remaining potential allrounder spots easier to choose?

Idk tho, I’m happy the way things are.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Grace, Richards, Mitchell, Boycott, Greenidge, Trumper, Smith, Hayden all of them could get voted next round

Or Simpson

 

[Fuller Pilch]

So far-
Barnes: 9
Imran: 8
Steyn: 9
Ambrose: 12
Lillee: 2
Bumrah: 1
Miller: 1

No votes for Wasim surprises me.

 

[Thala_0710]

No votes for Wasim surprises me.

He'd definitely get a few when we go to the third pacer, I'm assuming