All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[capt_Luffy]

Have to be Knott regardless.
Watling and Healy plus others need to be picked before those other keepers

Do they though??

 

[subshakerz]

If you're in the 2nd team, you're not the 3rd best cricketer.

Ah well as usual appeal to consensus when it suits you, a classic Kyear tactic.

 

[kyear2]

Not in this case. This team has great balance with either Kallis or Miller.

Fair, but worth it. With the quality of this lineup, you are very seldom going to need huge scores. Rather have him shepherding the tail and making sure of very few lowish scores than getting the occasional huge score on the back of him going very big.

Lara at 4 breaks up the run of right handers and as pointed out, has the greater propensity for mammoth scores.

 

[Thala_0710]

Do they though??

It gets really really interesting from the next team onwards.... Reckon there will be many more disagreements than there have been so far

 

[subshakerz]

Well, Subs will say something about Barry in the same tone when he doesn't get in the 5th or 6th team.

I won't though because I am pretty clear I don't find CW consensus as authoritative.

He does when it suits him and we all know that.

 

[DrWolverine]

How good was Alan Kott when keeping to spinners? Ian Healy was excellent keeping to Warne so must be fine while keeping to Murali.

 

[capt_Luffy]

If we do something like 30 ATG XIs, I think we can get there eventually.
Or if we re run this exercise in like 5 years or something using this thread again

I think voting will plummet significantly post team D or E, people lose interest quite easily after a few teams. Also, think we should do 27 teams.

 

[subshakerz]

Lara at 4 breaks up the run of right handers and as pointed out, has the greater propensity for mammoth scores.

Kallis doesn't make any sense at 6. It's two positions from his usual one and his average drops precipitously down the order.

 

[capt_Luffy]

How good was Alan Kott when keeping to spinners? Ian Healy was excellent keeping to Warne so must be fine while keeping to Murali.

Kept to Underwood in the stickies. And if you want a Murali specialist, just get Sangakkara in.

 

[ataraxia]

You absolutely can be

Yeah what if the three best cricketers on Mars are wily spinners on their dusty grounds? I don't think they'd all be selected for tests on Earth.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Kallis doesn't make any sense at 6. It's two positions from his usual one and his average drops precipitously down the order.

I honestly don't think there will be much difference in output with Kallis or Sangakkara at 6 (given he keeps)

 

[Thala_0710]

I think voting will plummet significantly post team D or E, people lose interest quite easily after a few teams. Also, think we should do 27 teams.

Makes sense

 

[ataraxia]

@kyear2 @kyear3 I thought that if you had Gilchrist keeping, you want Wasim – but if you have Knott keeping, you want Imran. Has this changed?

 

[sayon basak]

How good was Alan Kott when keeping to spinners? Ian Healy was excellent keeping to Warne so must be fine while keeping to Murali.

Knott kept to Underwood on stickies.

 

[Thala_0710]

I think voting will plummet significantly post team D or E, people lose interest quite easily after a few teams. Also, think we should do 27 teams.

If we do get near the record though, I suggest we do not take the Mulder approach

 

[capt_Luffy]

If we do get near the record though, I suggest we do not take the Mulder approach though

I still get unreasonably mad thinking about that.

 

[sayon basak]

I still get unreasonably mad thinking about that.

Bumrah gonna fire today. Be happy.

 

[ataraxia]

I honestly don't think there will be much difference in output with Kallis or Sangakkara at 6 (given he keeps)

I think it's silly to think that Sangakkara keeping wouldn't significantly damage his run output. Samplesizelol but it's worth noting that in the 13 tests from 2000–06 in which he didn't keep he averaged 68, as opposed to 41 when keeping.

 

[Thala_0710]

Bumrah gonna fire today. Be happy.

Stop jinxing it

 

[kyear2]

You absolutely can be

When Hadlee, while competing for the same spot basically laps him?

Hadlee is the greater and better cricketer, been saying that for years. And I don't nearly rate Hadlee as high as you and most here do.