8th thread - pick the Aus attack at Cardiff

[Swingpanzee]

Watson out, keeper (preferably Nevill) to #6, Johnson to #7 and everyone plays.

Rogers/S.Marsh
Warner
TPC
Clarke
Voges
Nevill
Johnson
Starc
Harris
Hazelwood
Lyon

#alloutpaceattack
#shockandawe

uwotm7+1?

 

[Tangles]

So the media are the only ones dropping Harris so far. 1st bowler picked if fit imo.

 

[Red]

uwotm7+1?

Did I stutter?

 

[weldone]

So the media are the only ones dropping Harris so far. 1st bowler picked if fit imo.

Mark Waugh (selector) made 2 comments like:
1. Starc is currently the best bowler in the world
2. Johnson is still the leader of the Aussie attack

If that means they are going to select both lefties, that'll be unfortunate.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

not picking harris is like throwing out a whole block of beautiful prime aged gouda cheese because there's a speck of mould on one corner

 

[Dan]

AFAIC this is the easiest selection Australia have had in a long, long time. The XI straight-up picks itself (injuries notwithstanding).

1. Warner
2. Rogers
3. Smith
4. Clarke *
5. Voges
6. Waton
7. Haddin +
8. Johnson
9. Harris
10. Hazlewood
11. Lyon

 

[weldone]

AFAIC this is the easiest selection Australia have had in a long, long time. The XI straight-up picks itself (injuries notwithstanding).

1. Warner
2. Rogers
3. Smith
4. Clarke *
5. Voges
6. Waton
7. Haddin +
8. Johnson
9. Harris
10. Hazlewood
11. Lyon

I approve this team.

 

[weldone]

Looking forward to see how England bowlers manage to bowl to the Aussie tail

 

[Gob]

AFAIC this is the easiest selection Australia have had in a long, long time. The XI straight-up picks itself (injuries notwithstanding).

1. Warner
2. Rogers
3. Smith
4. Clarke *
5. Voges
6. Waton
7. Haddin +
8. Johnson
9. Harris
10. Hazlewood
11. Lyon

rogers takes the first strike.

 

[Tangles]

AFAIC this is the easiest selection Australia have had in a long, long time. The XI straight-up picks itself (injuries notwithstanding).

1. Warner
2. Rogers
3. Smith
4. Clarke *
5. Voges
6. Waton
7. Haddin +
8. Johnson
9. Harris
10. Hazlewood
11. Lyon

Agreed. Unless Rod has an agenda to get Marsh a gig in front of Voges (incumbent) or Rogers (concussion). Or unless the idiot brigade rest Harris. Or unless someone thinks any leggie will tear it up and they drop Lyon. These things would be cray so hoping none of them are considered.

 

[Dan]

Agreed. Unless Rod has an agenda to get Marsh a gig in front of Voges (incumbent) or Rogers (concussion). Or unless the idiot brigade rest Harris. Or unless someone thinks any leggie will tear it up and they drop Lyon. These things would be cray so hoping none of them are considered.

I was going to finish that post with "any any other XI is stupid" but thought better of it since that makes me seem a tad too pro-Watson

 

[Jarquis]

Looking forward to see how England bowlers manage to bowl to the Aussie tail

Spoiler alert:

Badly.

 

[The Battlers Prince]

It'll be interesting to see what the XI looks like by the end of the series.

 

[Prince EWS]

See, the problem with having a subform for a series is that Riggins just made the same post three times.

Encouraging Riggins to post more is always a good thing though, even if he's just rephrasing the same idea.

 

[Riggins]

Remember when you were too hungover to grab a pint?

 

[Prince EWS]

Remember when you were too hungover to grab a pint?

I'm so ashamed. Grabbing a pint is usually the best way for me to get over hangovers. I was absolutely ****ed that day though.

 

[NUFAN]

I'm not saying that Haze is better than Johnson and/or Harris overall, but he is the first bowler I would be picking. If Lehmann, Clarke etc like what they see from Harris in the warmup game he is a lock too. Johnson is still ahead of Starc IMO, so that's my 3 quicks sorted.

The spot that I'm most interested in is our number 6. Marsh vs Watson vs Marsh. I understand Watson's role is one of containment but surely the selectors must be concerned about his inability to take wickets and make valuable runs.

Aus in Eng 2009 8 overs 0/49
Aus in Eng 2013 85.3 overs 2/179 (good economy rate) That's in 9 bowling innings, so he gets through around 10 overs per innings. That's pretty important and I doubt any of our part time spinners can get through those 10 overs so cheaply.

Watson has a reasonable record against England and in England, thanks largely to a big 100 in the last match when the series was already decided. Since the Oval Test, in 12 innings he has made just 339 runs @ 28.25 and 7 wickets @ 44.86 with an economy rate of 2.65. If only his batting and bowling averages were the other way around.

With 5 Tests in quite close proximity, there is about a 1% chance that we are going in with 6 specialist batsman so this means its just between Watson and MitchMarsh unfortunately, as I feel as though a healthy Henriques or Faulkner could do a better job than what Watson does.

So after all this, with the two guys mentioned above out of the squad, I agree with Dan on the XI he has picked with Rogers and Warner switched around for all the Gob like people out there.

 

[Tangles]

Moz seems to have slipped right down the pecking order.

 

[Gob]

I'm not saying that Haze is better than Johnson and/or Harris overall, but he is the first bowler I would be picking. If Lehmann, Clarke etc like what they see from Harris in the warmup game he is a lock too. Johnson is still ahead of Starc IMO, so that's my 3 quicks sorted.

The spot that I'm most interested in is our number 6. Marsh vs Watson vs Marsh. I understand Watson's role is one of containment but surely the selectors must be concerned about his inability to take wickets and make valuable runs.

Aus in Eng 2009 8 overs 0/49
Aus in Eng 2013 85.3 overs 2/179 (good economy rate) That's in 9 bowling innings, so he gets through around 10 overs per innings. That's pretty important and I doubt any of our part time spinners can get through those 10 overs so cheaply.

Watson has a reasonable record against England and in England, thanks largely to a big 100 in the last match when the series was already decided. Since the Oval Test, in 12 innings he has made just 339 runs @ 28.25 and 7 wickets @ 44.86 with an economy rate of 2.65. If only his batting and bowling averages were the other way around.

With 5 Tests in quite close proximity, there is about a 1% chance that we are going in with 6 specialist batsman so this means its just between Watson and MitchMarsh unfortunately, as I feel as though a healthy Henriques or Faulkner could do a better job than what Watson does.

So after all this, with the two guys mentioned above out of the squad, I agree with Dan on the XI he has picked with Rogers and Warner switched around for all the Gob like people out there.

There are no people like me.Only me.

 

[Debris]

Definitely be a green seamer and Lyon will miss.