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2011 World Cup Bid Vote - Another chance

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
But we are not talking about holding the entire WC in SriLanka. The discussion was about whether or not Colombo can organize a World Cup SemiFinal/Final.

I think it very well can. I dont see it any worse/better than most Subcontinent cities e.g. Kolkata, Mumbai, Lahore, Karachi etc.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
As news trickled in yesterday that the sub-continent has been awarded the World Cup — even though in 2011 and after 15 years — a wave of joy swept across India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. After all, it is only the third time that cricket’s showcase trophy will travel to this part of the world.

But how did they manage to do it? How did they manage to beat a joint bid by Australia and New Zealand, who boast of better facilities and had hosted the event (1992) before Asia’s last shot in 1996?

As it turns out, it took just 30 minutes on a Sunday evening in Dubai to do the trick.

It was in those precious moments that former BCCI president IS Bindra gave an audio-visual presentation in front of International Cricket Council members on why the 2011 World Cup should be awarded to the sub-continent. And, as the 10-3 margin suggests, they were enchanted.

The electronic show gave the ICC enough reasons to forget organisational bottlenecks in a four-nation bid and award the rights to the sub-continent.

As BCCI vice-president Lalit Modi told Mumbai Mirror, the presentation was the key.

“Almost 90 per cent of the issue was settled with the presentation. It told the ICC about our vision for the cup, it talked about the direction we wanted to take cricket in Asia and the world, it talked about the facilities we have and those we want to create...

“It talked about the commitment and the dedication of the four boards. We were confident that the other ICC member nations had enough faith in us and in the end we won it despite talks of a weak and delayed bid.”

Modi also broke into the board’s new-found professional mantra. “We are a professional body now. There are things that you and I are not experts in and a specialised agency had to be approached.

“When we approached an outside agency that helped us in the presentation, we gave them a simple brief — take out the common factors in support of the joint bid and project it in the best possible way. They did that and, coupled with the hard work done by the four boards, we clinched the deal.”

However, the tech-savvy businessman in Modi also knows that there is still a long way to go and issues like tax rebate and non-payment of 1996 PILCOM money are still to be sorted out.

“On the tax issue, we have written to all the four governments and are confident of getting it sorted out on time. The PILCOM issue is also being discussed among boards.”

Modi also denied that the descision on holding the World Cup final in Pakistan has already being taken. “This is all speculation. We are yet to even discuss this issue. We are yet to decide on the league venues how can we decide on final venue?

“All this will be decided once the logistics are worked out at the committees to into all these are formed.”
 

Beleg

International Regular
Sanz,

Oh, I definitely agree Colombo can host a semi-final/final. I thought Jason was talking about Lankans hosting the world cup on its own

My mistake.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Samuel_Vimes said:
Sorry, but here's the same report, from a different source.

Seems like your best bet is for the ICC to change the format.

From the same link :-

"...51 games to be played in the 2011 tournament, 22 would be in India, 14 in Pakistan, nine in Sri Lanka and six in Bangladesh....We are yet to decide on who will host the semifinals and final matches," - Niranjan Shah BCCI Secretary. :)
 

Dick Rockett

International Vice-Captain
JASON said:
I know most Kiwis see themselves a tiny insignificant non-entity next to Australia, but we Sri Lankans don't see ourselves that way . So please don't project your little inferiority psychosis on others
I never said anything about comparisons with Australia, I said globally. And in that sense, Australia really doesn't amount to much either, when compared with the likes of the States, China, most of Europe, etc. I don't have any inferiority complex, because I don't care. I'm happy in my little corner of the world, and it matters not a jot to me whether the rest of the world pays much attention to us or not (as long as we get some decent bands touring here every now or then :)). The people with inferiority complexes tend to be those who overstate their significance, just as you are.


JASON said:
Mundane:) , you are right it is unrealistic, but then you should not make derogatory comments about places that you have not been or know nothing of . James first made the comment that Colombo was not good enough, despite not knowing any thing about the City. Go and read the post and figure who made disparaging comments first ok ?
Stating the obvious (which is that SL is highly unlikely to be given any of the big WC finals), is hardly being derogatory, nor is pointing out the eminently logical reasons why. If you find such comments derogatory, then see my above comments on inferiority complexes. That you should accuse James of similar oversight is staggering, seeing as he generally sets an example for all of us.

JASON said:
I have no issues with Wellington Town:) . I have never been there, but don't think I am missing much. The comments were made in response to the comments by James, OK.
You have made several pointless digs at Wellington in other threads, and it's getting boring. I find it ironic that you should see fit to make fun of our home, having never been here, yet still lecture us on making calls on Colombo, having never been there.
 
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Dick Rockett

International Vice-Captain
honestbharani said:
Nope, but I am pretty sure I would rather live in Chennai than in Wellington, personally. It is a matter of culture and stuff. You are used to yours, we are used to ours. But it becomes a problem when one starts claiming one is better than the other.
For goodness sake, I understand that. I'm just getting tired of Jason's snide little remarks about my home. I'm sure that Chennai, and for that matter, Colombo, are lovely places. I, however, like it here just fine.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Son Of Coco said:
I'm a bit devastated that my quote about Neil Pickup and pies slipped from your signature...tell me, was there internal pressure from the CW heirarchy? :happy:
No no SoC nothing of the sort.

But whether or not Neil has some of death ray built on the biggest hill in Devon aimed at me when I enter Exeter or if I go for a swim he has sharks with laster beams on their heads I can't be certain.
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
mundaneyogi said:
The people with inferiority complexes tend to be those who overstate their significance, just as you are.
The following statement should clarify who has the inferiority complex.

mundaneyogi said:
He seems to be unaware that, like New Zealand, Sri Lanka is really a speck on the global stage and of very little consequence.
In terms of International Cricket we have won a World Cup (within 14 years of getting Test status) and won our first Test a lot shorter than 26 years and are relatively more succesful cricketing nation than some other smaller nations with smaller populations who seem to equate their cricketing significance as equivalent to ours. :laugh: So the demand to host a WC Final does not in any way overstate our significance in International Cricket . And if anything we have every right to do so given our cricketing achievements compared to some others who have been in International Cricket for over 7 decades but despite this are eternal under achievers and I need not state who they are.:laugh:
mundaneyogi said:
You have made several pointless digs at Wellington in other threads, and it's getting boring. I find it ironic that you should see fit to make fun of our home, having never been here, yet still lecture us on making calls on Colombo, having never been there.
I will tell you whats boring. Your pointless nonsensical posts and your ongoing attempt to suggest that I started this exchange, when It was quite clearly started by someone else .

I am utterly bored by your posts and will stop replying , because they are not worthy of reply.
 
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JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Voltman said:
I wonder if you've actually met any New Zealanders in your time here, with comments like that.
I'm in a profession where I meet loads of Kiwis every day. I know this might be surprising and things may be different in the deep south , but what I have stated is the truth from my observations.

This is one reason why it doesn't hurt some Kiwis much when they lose to the Aussies in some sports. :)
 

Craig

World Traveller
I lived there for 13 and half years and never came across any felt 'Aussie'. At my last school there we had one or two Australians and they sang 'God Defend New Zealand' in Moari and in English.
 

Sir Redman

State Vice-Captain
silentstriker said:
As news trickled in yesterday that the sub-continent has been awarded the World Cup — even though in 2011 and after 15 years — a wave of joy swept across India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. After all, it is only the third time that cricket’s showcase trophy will travel to this part of the world.

But how did they manage to do it? How did they manage to beat a joint bid by Australia and New Zealand, who boast of better facilities and had hosted the event (1992) before Asia’s last shot in 1996?

As it turns out, it took just 30 minutes on a Sunday evening in Dubai to do the trick.

It was in those precious moments that former BCCI president IS Bindra gave an audio-visual presentation in front of International Cricket Council members on why the 2011 World Cup should be awarded to the sub-continent. And, as the 10-3 margin suggests, they were enchanted.

The electronic show gave the ICC enough reasons to forget organisational bottlenecks in a four-nation bid and award the rights to the sub-continent.

As BCCI vice-president Lalit Modi told Mumbai Mirror, the presentation was the key.

“Almost 90 per cent of the issue was settled with the presentation. It told the ICC about our vision for the cup, it talked about the direction we wanted to take cricket in Asia and the world, it talked about the facilities we have and those we want to create...

“It talked about the commitment and the dedication of the four boards. We were confident that the other ICC member nations had enough faith in us and in the end we won it despite talks of a weak and delayed bid.”

Modi also broke into the board’s new-found professional mantra. “We are a professional body now. There are things that you and I are not experts in and a specialised agency had to be approached.

“When we approached an outside agency that helped us in the presentation, we gave them a simple brief — take out the common factors in support of the joint bid and project it in the best possible way. They did that and, coupled with the hard work done by the four boards, we clinched the deal.”

However, the tech-savvy businessman in Modi also knows that there is still a long way to go and issues like tax rebate and non-payment of 1996 PILCOM money are still to be sorted out.

“On the tax issue, we have written to all the four governments and are confident of getting it sorted out on time. The PILCOM issue is also being discussed among boards.”

Modi also denied that the descision on holding the World Cup final in Pakistan has already being taken. “This is all speculation. We are yet to even discuss this issue. We are yet to decide on the league venues how can we decide on final venue?

“All this will be decided once the logistics are worked out at the committees to into all these are formed.”
It seems a bit unfair that they should decide who gets it based on the presentation, given that the Asian bid went nearly two months over the deadline preparing theirs.
 

Sir Redman

State Vice-Captain
JASON said:
mundaneyogi said:
The people with inferiority complexes tend to be those who overstate their significance, just as you are.
The following statement should clarify who has the inferiority complex.

mundaneyogi said:
He seems to be unaware that, like New Zealand, Sri Lanka is really a speck on the global stage and of very little consequence.
How on Earth is that having an inferiority complex? Its being realistic - we know that we are insignificant, and quite frankly, I'm sure most of us like it that way. We don't have to worry about terrorists, overpopulation and all sorts of political crap that comes from being "important", and are left to deal with our own lives.

No disrepect, but you are kidding yourself if you think Sri Lanka is an important player in the world. More important than NZ, but that doesn't take much. Outside of the sporting world, Australia also has very little influence on things - there's probably at least 50 countries that are more powerful than Australia is - and when you consider most of Europe, the Middle East, Asia and the Americas you can see why.
 

pasag

RTDAS
Econimcally Australia are a hugley insignificant country. I learnt that on my first day of economics. Military wise as well we are very insignificant.

But I like it like that. No pressure.
 

Slats4ever

International Vice-Captain
pasag said:
Econimcally Australia are a hugley insignificant country. I learnt that on my first day of economics. Military wise as well we are very insignificant.

But I like it like that. No pressure.
cricket wise. we are the most significant8-)
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
JASON said:
I'm in a profession where I meet loads of Kiwis every day. I know this might be surprising and things may be different in the deep south , but what I have stated is the truth from my observations.

This is one reason why it doesn't hurt some Kiwis much when they lose to the Aussies in some sports. :)
And you don't think:

a) I may have lived in other parts of the country than the deep south
b) I don't have friends who come from, and now live all over New Zealand.

It seems to me you've gone in with pre-conceived theories and have tried desperately to attach them to the Kiwis you've met. How exactly do you bring this up with them during your work?
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
Australia ain't the most significant country in cricket, even though we've been so successful on the field. India is.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Cricket wise, it depends what you mean by the 'most significant'. If you go by ability, Australia is definatly it. If you go by history, then it would be England. If you go by infastructure, its England or Australia. If you go by the level of interest in the game, then its India. If you go by money, then its also India.

My completly arbitrary and personal rankings of the most 'significant' is:

1) India (Level of interest and passion in the game trumps everything, money is a side issue)
2) England (Spiritual center of Cricket, plus all that history)
3) Australia (being the best team in the world is a transient thing, history and passion are much less so)


In the end, the game wouldn't exist without fan passion and people obsessing over everything cricket, and thats why I rate that as the most significant aspect of cricket.
 
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