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**Official** English Football Season 2024/25

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The Premier League has made tons of money from internationalisation. I have more issue with someone in the UK choosing to support a particular team for glory when their local team needs their support. When the clubs have been deliberately spreading their brand overseas, it seems pretty churlish to complain when non-Brits choose one of the big teams to support.
 

Silly Point 2.0

U19 12th Man
Internationalisation and the big clubs marketing themselves abroad is just one of the reasons that English football is no longer competitive for clubs not part of the monopoly. But I don't blame people overseas for buying into it. Agree I dislike those from the UK that follow them for the glory more.
 

Skipper Pup

State 12th Man
If you've spent your life deciding how much you can care about something based on how far it is from where you were born or where you live then I feel sorry for you.
Great post and articulated my sentiments from the last few pages (and this repeated discussion) very well.

There are some sad people on here, although I'm not sure they are worth feeling sorry for.
 

speirz

International 12th Man
Gatekeeping who can be a fan of who/what is legit one of the direst things imo. People can support whoever they like for whatever reason they like. People should just be happy that there are other people out there getting interested in the same things as they are.
I get it to an extent if it's a club that has a particular political or religious stance or something like that, but even then I think it's only something for fans of that club to protect if they feel like it's a key part of the identity of the team they associate with. Like if a St. Pauli fan took issue with someone supporting them who didn't actually line up with their ideologies that would make more sense to me. I wouldn't necessarily agree with it, because if it were me I'd view it as a chance to use the club to change that person's views to align with my own, but I would understand the instincts behind protecting it.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
The Premier League has made tons of money from internationalisation. I have more issue with someone in the UK choosing to support a particular team for glory when their local team needs their support. When the clubs have been deliberately spreading their brand overseas, it seems pretty churlish to complain when non-Brits choose one of the big teams to support.
Probably a fair point. Where I grew up, kids either supported Portsmouth, Southampton or Liverpool. I obviously sort of hated the Southampton fans (not even true, my best mate at school was one) but at least you respected them for why they supported their team. But we all knew why people supported Liverpool and nothing has really changed. But as someone with a lot of Scouse mates, it's amazing how it is always the plastics who shout the loudest.

If you've spent your life deciding how much you can care about something based on how far it is from where you were born or where you live then I feel sorry for you.
No one spends their life thinking about this, but your line purveys a lack of understanding of rivalry within English football.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Gatekeeping who can be a fan of who/what is legit one of the direst things imo. People can support whoever they like for whatever reason they like. People should just be happy that there are other people out there getting interested in the same things as they are.
Says the Arsenal fan from N Hampshire!! 😉 Although this area seems to be more Chelsea these days....
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Says the Arsenal fan from N Hampshire!! 😉 Although this area seems to be more Chelsea these days....
Haha when I started supporting Arsenal (a decision taken whilst I was in year 2 at primary school, entirely motivated by me learning that my best friend supported them) they had just finished 12th in the league tbf.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
I get it to an extent if it's a club that has a particular political or religious stance or something like that, but even then I think it's only something for fans of that club to protect if they feel like it's a key part of the identity of the team they associate with. Like if a St. Pauli fan took issue with someone supporting them who didn't actually line up with their ideologies that would make more sense to me. I wouldn't necessarily agree with it, because if it were me I'd view it as a chance to use the club to change that person's views to align with my own, but I would understand the instincts behind protecting it.
I kind of take your point here. But ultimately, whatever political considerations that exist aside, football is at its core a bunch of grown men in silly uniforms running around swatting little balls about. Anyone who gets overly worked up about who supports whatever team, or what qualifying criteria there supposedly are for supporting anyone, is (I suspect) severely inadequate.
 

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