3rd Test (Lord’s) - 10 July to 14 July

[Wanna_Be_AB]

last game was a game of the life for Deep

Even Akash got more 10fers than Bumrah
sad but true

 

[Arachnödouche2.0]

I agree but for bashir , he does not play any games outside of test match level

he is learning and has won a game for England before

I just think the lad can only improve with the more experience he gets

has there been another spinner at his age only play tests matches ?

Can't the ECB work with his county or perhaps even move him to a different county where he gets to bowl more? His problems are almost exclusively related to bowling stamina at this stage.

 

[Daemon]

I hope one thing the tail learns is that they can actually stick around way more than they usually do if they really put their mind to it.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

and if india win at OT i trust they'll drop this nonsense plan to only play him three times.

This is India’s most important series for some time, you have to take a risk with him at some point, yeah he could break down at the Oval, but he could slip on a bar of soap!

 

[Arachnödouche2.0]

I hope one thing the tail learns is that they can actually stick around way more than they usually do if they really put their mind to it.

They've flattered to deceive before. I have no hope they can do this on a consistent basis.

 

[Wanna_Be_AB]

lol i didn't say this(i.e. the 'quoted' text)

I know but that's eventually gonna happen

 

[Daemon]

England will have a full strength attack next test. Atkinson in for Woakes and Leach for Bashir?

 

[Johan]

England will have a full strength attack next test. Atkinson in for Woakes and Leach for Bashir?

That last wicket gave Stokes an orgasm and now Bashir will play every test until 2045

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

Can't the ECB work with his county or perhaps even move him to a different county where he gets to bowl more? His problems are almost exclusively related to bowling stamina at this stage.

He went on loan to Glamorgan where he hasn’t bowled much, the ECB unlike other boards cannot force FC counties to bowl players, he played on the Lions tour to Australia (where he didn’t do well), I think tours like that to different places (England is about as hostile to spin as anywhere in the world) are the way forward, but equally it might just be that he doesn’t have it

 

[honestbharani]

England will have a full strength attack next test. Atkinson in for Woakes and Leach for Bashir?

They might actually miss Woakes if that is the case. But I feel they may also bring in Atkinson for Carse who has bowled a lot of overs I think, this series.

 

[sledger]

My favourite game is hide the strudel.

I am sure it is, chap. I am sure it is.

 

[Wanna_Be_AB]

I am sure it is, chap. I am sure it is.

I'm not very good at the game though

 

[CartyDurham]

i mean he can and likely will but is his ceiling high enough? evidences suggests absolutely not. international cricket is not a creche and england putting their eggs into the basket of a bloke who is about third choice at his county team is really weird.

I agree and it’s to be seen how far they go with the lad

him not playing anything outside tests is unique to me in all the time I’ve watched

 

[Daemon]

They might actually miss Woakes if that is the case. But I feel they may also bring in Atkinson for Carse who has bowled a lot of overs I think, this series.

There’s ages to the next game though.

 

[CartyDurham]

Can't the ECB work with his county or perhaps even move him to a different county where he gets to bowl more? His problems are almost exclusively related to bowling stamina at this stage.

He has moved but they didn’t play him either

it’s a unique situation but England have chose to do this

 

[honestbharani]

@Spark - Think you got your answer about the side's spirit there. That was one hell of a fight. Are people actually criticizing Jadeja here? He is not a T20 hitter, he simply does not have the range of shots to pull off a Stokes. The best he could hope for was to pull off a Laxman in 2009. And he bloody almost did but for a most unfortunate dismissal of Siraj.

I think almost all Indian sides except for about 9 months in 2011-12 and again in 2014 have had tremendous fight in them since Ganguly took over in 2001. So good to see that tradition is still burning bright. Now to actually play some good cricket and not make stupid mistakes that let the opponents back into the game. England played better in the most decisive moments of the game. This was a game they won far more than the first test. The dropped catch of Smith, the lower order runs by England in the first innings, our own collapse of the lower order on day 3 and then again the top order on day 4 were all India's faults but today England's bowling was supreme. Archer, Carse and Stokes is as good an attack as you can get for England. Atkinson probably is good too but England has to hope they all remain fit for the remainder of this series and for the Ashes.

They won a good toss, didn't suck so bad in their bad moments to be played out of the game, and played their best at the most critical points and completely deserve this win. I am far less disappointed by this defeat than I was at Headingley. And I was less disappointed by Headingley than the games in Australia. I think this Indian side is still learning and hopefully just started on their upward curve. Hope to see a good fightback in OT under the watchful eyes of @GIMH.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

There’s ages to the next game though.

Mightily impressed with Carse who looked to be flagging after the last Test, he came back with a bang in that second innings

 

[Uppercut]

There was a very high probability he’d just hole out if he tried to take on the fielders in the deep. The ball was soft and dead by the end. Just wasn’t pinging off the bat at all. He’s also not exactly a power hitter which makes it even harder.

I think a few risks against Bashir or Root could have been taken. But like, they made 88 runs with the turgid approach. It wasn’t far away from working.

As well as he played, Bumrah deviated from the script and paid the price.

It’s just what batting with the tail is like though. People are getting on like he’s the first batsman to ever face boundary riders with a 10 and 11 at the other end. With Bumrah and Siraj sticking around for 80 balls or so, even scoring at 3 an over would have won them the game.

What really stood out was that running 2s weren’t a part of the strategy at all. Almost any good match winning innings with the tail involves a lot of knocking it into the gaps and trying to push hard for 2. It’s how you punish that field.

 

[sledger]

I'm not very good at the game though

Yeah, I've heard that. Try not to let it get you down.

 

[Silver Silva]

Mightily impressed with Carse who looked to be flagging after the last Test, he came back with a bang in that second innings

He bowls like a South African fast bowler , always trying to bomb batsmen out with great stamina and enthusiasm, works so hard for his wickets