3rd Test (Lord’s) - 10 July to 14 July

[Nas207]

I'm in two minds about Bashir. On one side he seems likeable and whole-hearted. On the other I just feel we could do so much better. I would say at least 50% of his wickets this series have been flukes, the rest of the time he's been milked.

 

[Arachnödouche2.0]

It was literally working because it was getting the team closer to the target. Would you have rated the innings higher if he'd made 60 in 50 balls instead? It achieved the exact same thing even though it was slow.

I think he should've changed gears once we were down to 30 because realistically that's about as much mileage as he could've milked from the bunnies before the odds caught up.

 

[sledger]

His eyes have savage intentions

Oh yeah, if it was a contest of intentions he'd be a real winner.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

So, when do the statues of Bashir go up?

 

[ImpatientLime]

does bumrah play at OT?

 

[RightArmMystery]

Jofra calling out the keyboard warriors and saying Rishabh pissed him off charging. Love him.

Also said his “overs are mapped out until December”, which was interesting. Wonder how much he’ll play between now and the first Ashes test. Reckon he might play 1 more game this series, but no chance he plays both, and think it’ll be a pretty limited schedule for the rest of the year.

 

[Daemon]

does bumrah play at OT?

Yes imo. If we lose that he can rest. If he doesn’t play and we lose then whats the point.

 

[SkyBlue]

Yes if he could have pulled a Stokes 2019
No if he would have got out slogging

Stokes 2019 happened because of dodgy umpiring and poor fielding. Even that knock would've gone in vain if Owen Wilson didn't decide to wear an England jersey that day

Whether he played like Pujara or Stokes, it was a near impossible task to get to this target with a tail who barely score runs. Plus as pointed out, Jadeja lacks the power game to play more aggressively.

He did what he had to do and should be the last person to be criticized for his approach but its the top order that messed up a very winnable game.

 

[ImpatientLime]

Yes imo. If we lose that he can rest. If he doesn’t play and we lose then whats the point.

and if india win at OT i trust they'll drop this nonsense plan to only play him three times.

 

[CartyDurham]

I'm in two minds about Bashir. On one side he seems likeable and whole-hearted. On the other I just feel we could do so much better. I would say at least 50% of his wickets this series have been flukes, the rest of the time he's been milked.

I agree but for bashir , he does not play any games outside of test match level

he is learning and has won a game for England before

I just think the lad can only improve with the more experience he gets

has there been another spinner at his age only play tests matches ?

 

[sledger]

I actually really quite like Siraj tbf. But he's extremely easy to dislike. Schadenfreude was invented for people like him.

 

[wpdavid]

does bumrah play at OT?

It starts in nine days time, so you'd think so. Ditto Archer.

 

[Silver Silva]

Do the other Indian seamers bowl better without Bumrah ?

Akash Deep took 10 wickets last test , this test match he looked like Prime Navdeep Saini

 

[Johan]

Do the other Indian seamers bowl better without Bumrah ?

Akash Deep took 10 wickets last test , this test match he looked like Prime Navdeep Saini

last game was a game of the life for Deep

 

[ImpatientLime]

I just think the lad can only improve with the more experience he gets

i mean he can and likely will but is his ceiling high enough? evidences suggests absolutely not. international cricket is not a creche and england putting their eggs into the basket of a bloke who is about third choice at his county team is really weird.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

does bumrah play at OT?

He simply has to, a nice little break again, imagine losing that Test without him and leaving the series dead

 

[Nas207]

I agree but for bashir , he does not play any games outside of test match level

he is learning and has won a game for England before

I just think the lad can only improve with the more experience he gets

has there been another spinner at his age only play tests matches ?

I can't remember a similar situation before, especially when there are several more experienced candidates with better records who could replace him.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

last game was a game of the life for Deep

India’s record with and without him speaks for itself, as well as India played without him, I think that was a particularly poor display from England, particularly the bowlers. They’ve bloody made up for it now though!

 

[Wanna_Be_AB]

He did what he had to do and should be the last person to be criticized for his approach but its the top order that messed up a very winnable game.

Doesn't that always happens?
The guy who scores runs slowly gets more criticized than the guy who doesn't scores at all
For example: 2019 SF with MSD & 2023 FINAL with KL

 

[sledger]

Doesn't that always happens?
The guy who scores runs slowly gets more criticized than the guy who doesn't scores at all
For example: 2019 SF with MSD & 2023 FINAL with KL

lol i didn't say this(i.e. the 'quoted' text)