3rd Test (Lord’s) - 10 July to 14 July

[Prince EWS]

EWS tasting it harder than Spikey right now re: Carse.

Carse is arse.

 

[Alex0paul]

Siraj to hit the winning runs via a deflection of his bat as Duckett attempts a run out

 

[Adders]

Carse is arse.

Your face is arse.

 

[Prince EWS]

Your face is arse.

Not unlike your posts and your third seamer.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Carse is arse.

You're tasting it.

 

[FBU]

Who is opening the bowling tomorrow?

Carse and Stokes
or Woakes and Archer
I doubt Bashir will bowl

 

[Arachnödouche2.0]

Gill looked nervous and edgy when he was batting.

It's strange. You would think he must have felt vindicated and on top of the world after his bowlers put in that performance but he showed up timid as heck instead. No comparison obv, but can you imagine Kohli in his pomp coming out in any frame of mind other than insufferably confident?

 

[honestbharani]

What an amazing day. As expected, India finally had their top order collapse. I blame effing Karun. We could have ended the day 1 down. Instead we are now 4 down and lost 3 top batsmen.

Gill looking nervous is understandable. Its his first big chase as a captain. Would you say 2 of these wickets were thrown away? Jaiswal was a ball that was there to be hit and I guess Karun let himself down. Unsure of the Gill ball as it did do something to defeat him.

As I said before, with the Shaz-Virat India this was an easy win but with this lot, it seems like a loss. Still, happy with the fight shown so far.

 

[honestbharani]

You're tasting it.

Maybe that's what he meant all along.

 

[centurymaker]

Left hand-right hand partneships are the key on this wicket to somewhat nullify the slope, so that bowlers don't settle. All the big partnerships involved a leftie.

1st innings: Rahul-Pant, Nitish-Jadeja
2nd innings: Root-Stokes

Carse got into rhythm thanks to abundance of right handers (Rahul, Nair, Gill). Moving the ball back in with the slope. And there was no leftie present to disturb his line.

 

[Kirkut]

Also, umpire's call for lbw decisions is an abomination, and I can't believe it hasn't been shelved already.

It isn't. While Hawk Eye is reliable, it does not exactly simulate the real time variables such as the uneven bounce and wind speed. It is here where an umpire's judgement should take precedence.

 

[Kirkut]

You're effectively 58-3 at the moment, chasing a small total, you are already 60-40

I would have thought the same if Shubhman Gill remained not out, adding to this now Carse has suddenly found his rhythm and Stokes is going to bowl out of his skins. Not to forget that Archer will be itching to correct his mistakes and at his pace on this uneven pitch won't be easy.

 

[centurymaker]

Only hopeful thing from india's pov is that the guys who got out are the ones who failed in the first innings as well (Jaiswal looked petrified. Gill looked rattled. Feet nowhere). It was also a good move to send Akash Deep because the bottom three add nothing at the end either.

Ball will keep doing things till about the 40th or 45th over, so if India keeps left-right batting combinations going beyond that, there's a chance.

 

[Burgey]

India should still be favourites. They only need one half decent partnership and they're home and hosed.

 

[centurymaker]

Sundar is a superstar. Made for this level of cricket you can see it from the interview. Really gave it to Smiley Ian Ward.

Ian Ward is a terrible commentator and host. Dislike his disparaging tone. He himself was a failure, barely played any tests, but you got to listen to the way he conducts himself talking to current cricketers as well as former greats of the game. Maintains this derogatory attitude. Very hard to listen to him; he ruins the whole experience of listening to Atherton Hussain etc.

 

[shortpitched713]

It isn't. While Hawk Eye is reliable, it does not exactly simulate the real time variables such as the uneven bounce and wind speed. It is here where an umpire's judgement should take precedence.

Bullshit. Hawkeye captures all the camera visible information of how the ball travels until it strikes the batsman, and predicts the remaining path accordingly. It does so drastically more accurately and consistently than any human ump can. That inclues whatever variable bounce or wind effect on the ball, because Hawkeye literally sees it (and with a more holistic visual context incorporating 3 dimensions compared to single view of human).

That's the reason that we grade the umps compared to how often their answers correspond to Hawkeye and not the other way around.

 

[Burgey]

This is the problem with India's batting. They have looked good mainly due to the lack of seam and swing this series. The moment it starts to move around, they're in trouble

You don't think this equally applies to the hosts? India should still be favourites here. Fourth innings chases shouldn't be easy but they need one decent partnership. If they lose a couple early though, they'll really struggle. Pant is the obviously the key. If he bats for 90 minutes or so tomorrow the game will nearly be done.

 

[ataraxia]

Bullshit. Hawkeye captures all the camera visible information of how the ball travels until it strikes the batsman, and predicts the remaining path accordingly. It does so drastically more accurately and consistently than any human ump can. That inclues whatever variable bounce or wind effect on the ball, because Hawkeye literally sees it (and with a more holistic visual context incorporating 3 dimensions compared to single view of human).

That's the reason that we grade the umps compared to how often their answers correspond to Hawkeye and not the other way around.

I don't think Hawkeye extrapolates for lateral movement in the air that may or may not occur after the ball hits the pad. There was one LBW where Wagner sent down a banana that was clearly swinging back to hit leg-stump, but not accounting for any swing after impact Hawkeye overruled the on-field out decision.

It's also really quite bad at determining the point of impact. Which would probably be solved if cameras with a non-joke amount of frames per second were used (looking at you, run out cam).

Otherwise, you're spot on obvs.

 

[centurymaker]

India gifted almost all of the wickets yesterday, reckless shots and blunders. So from that point of view there is still hope that if the rest of the lineup holds their nerve and plays on merit, there's a chance. But easier said than done, given their history.

 

[gus the great]

Is Gus in your Title : Gus Atkison or Gustavo Fring ?

Gary Gilmour.