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3rd Test (Lord’s) - 10 July to 14 July
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Kenneth Viljoen
International Regular
Some ideas are just plain ****, imagination or not.
cnerd123
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The frequency that umpires are using the ball guage has definitely increased post Covid. There must have been an ICC directive sent through about it. Umpires in HK who do associate internationals were instructed relatively recently to carry a ball guage with them onto the field, and it's now common practice even at club level.
I think the complaints about the Dukes must have been around for a good 5+ years, and only in the last two years we have seen umpires acting on it, hence the public attention.
Hope they can figure out a solution. An extra layer of lacquer would make the ball harder, but it's already hard enough that we've had 3 finger injuries this summer. Not sure what treatment can be done to the leather they're getting.
Based on the three days so far I would not expect 5rpo. England may as well bat the whole day and see where it gets them.
I think the particularly slow overrates in this match are a consequence of the hot weather and seam dominated attacks (Aggers the other day dismissed the "heat" thing by saying "well it's just as hot in Multan, or Dubai, or Koltata..." (er... 80%+ of overs delivered by spin?!), plus some rather bizarre lengthy stoppages for injuries, and obviously all the ball changes*. Notwithstanding the stuff at the end of the day, in general i don't actually think most of what goes on is 'deliberate' time wasting by teams, it is just a general lack of urgency all round - which mainly comes from the umpires (albeit captains could do more pro-actively as well). An interesting suggestion made the other day was to fine the umpires for slow play! That would sort it out in no time!!!
*i find this ridiculous. I was at Lords watching this - it was taking 5-10 minutes to change a ball. The usual routine with the hoops, slow march over to consult with the other umpire... and then waiting for the alternative balls to be ceremoniously walked out to the middle and back again at a snail's pace. You could save 2-3 minutes just by sending them out in a remote control car, if the third umpire can't be persuaded to break into at least a trot! It's that sort of thing that are easy wins but those in charge show no basic imagination in sorting out.
*i find this ridiculous. I was at Lords watching this - it was taking 5-10 minutes to change a ball. The usual routine with the hoops, slow march over to consult with the other umpire... and then waiting for the alternative balls to be ceremoniously walked out to the middle and back again at a snail's pace. You could save 2-3 minutes just by sending them out in a remote control car, if the third umpire can't be persuaded to break into at least a trot! It's that sort of thing that are easy wins but those in charge show no basic imagination in sorting out.
They introduced the stop clock at the start of this series and instead of speeding up we have seen these two clown sides go slower then ever.
Weirdly one of my earliest random cricketing memories as a child was remembering two teams being tied on first innings in a test match (England-India 1986 390 a piece). And a pretty rare feat it is too (think this was the 9th or 10th time in test history?)
Son Of Coco
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I think batting with gloves off is too lenient. 10 overs short should equal batting with the bat held between your arse cheeks for 10 overs. Batsmen waste time = bat held between the arse cheeks for 1 over. Fielding side wastes time, bowler has to bowl with ball gripped between arse cheeks.
The latter does punish everyone though to be fair.
Yeah i saw that at Lords. I didn't understand the point of it? No evidence of anybody paying the slightest bit of attention to it.
Blenkinsop
State 12th Man
Maybe a fair punishment for time wasting would be for a team to lose some or all of their reviews?
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
Bad news
I'm hearing that Bashir is a doubt for the fourth Test due to his finger injury.
India fans
wpdavid
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. Whereas the photo I saw this morning of Gill wagging his finger in Crawley's face was less palatable. Especially as Gill has some previous in this test when he thought that was the way to communiciate with one of the umpires. Hopefully Crawley, in the poshest voice he could muster, quietly invited Gill to relocate his ****ing finger up his ****ing arse. And then offered to help with that particular endeavour if necessary.
That's all.
wpdavid
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
kl rahul has hit 4 hundreds in englund
crawley has 3
duckett has 3
Yup, the lad's done great.
Starfighter
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I think it's because it's a between overs clock. Doesn't stop time wasting in the middle of overs.
CricAddict
International Coach
Any replacement who comes in (I assume Hartley/Rehan/Leach/Dawson) can bat well too. So the England batting lineup is going to get strengthened further, especially with Atkinson potentially returning too. Will genuinely bat till 11.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
7fers in Indiakl rahul has hit 4 hundreds in englund
crawley has 3
duckett has 3
Tom Hartley 1
Jasprit Bumrah 0
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Captain
Since we famously hate draws, we’ll try our level best to score quickly even if it means some of the batters will lose their wickets cheaply…if it means we end up losing, I don’t think it’s stupid or ‘devaluing’ Test cricket, merely the risk that we are trying to take to win the game
flibbertyjibber
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On a side note did anyone expect Archer to still be bowling 90mph+ spells deep into the 3rd session of a very hot day?
Hopefully he stays fit and can play much more than he has in recent times be it tests or in pyjama cricket. Good to see him back but you do wonder when the next injury will occur.
Hopefully he stays fit and can play much more than he has in recent times be it tests or in pyjama cricket. Good to see him back but you do wonder when the next injury will occur.