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[subshakerz]

He did, so did Sachin, who was extra shite on mean.

Lol no he wasn't, McGrath was literally taking 3WPM @31.

Anyways, at my least you admit this is a blemish on McGraths career.

 

[Johan]

He is not my friend. Nor do I gaf about any of these numbers with small sample sizes for Mcgarh or smith or anyone. Country x, country z. This is modern phenomenon. Peope never did that before. Thats not how players were rated. You have to watch.

I have watched, and both those come from Sachin fans, truly ruined Cricket debating.

 

[Johan]

Lol no he wasn't, McGrath was literally taking 3WPM @31.

Anyways, at my least you admit this is a blemish on McGraths career.

He was, he has marquee performances, STILL averages 36, means he was **** outside it, it's the basics

 

[subshakerz]

He was, he has marquee performances, STILL averages 36, means he was **** outside it, it's the basics

I think I prefer that than someone making 30 odd everytime they come to the crease.

But he showed in SA with tougher bowling conditions that he can average well past that which is why I am more forgiving for this blemish than McGraths.

But to be clear it's not my primary argument for why McGrath should be behind Tendulkar.

 

[Johan]

I think I prefer that than someone making 30 odd everytime they come to the crease.

But he showed in SA with tougher bowling conditions that he can average well past which is why I am more forgiving for this blemish than McGraths.

But to be clear it's not my primary argument for why McGrath should be behind Tendulkar.

McGrath did well in SA too, and not even on easy pitches, like 630/8 type wickets

another strike

 

[centurymaker]

not only am I sufficiently old enough to remember Sachin, the fact that you have such a cultish mentality that anyone rating Smith over Sachin in Tests is not credible is truly worrying.

so Okay then, answer, Ponting or Smith? let's see your credibility.

Old enough to remember old sachin, the 2011/12 version? Thanks. Sachin pre 2003/04 vs Sachin post 2003 are two different players. If you have not actually watched pre 2003/04, there is no reason to discuss all this. We are all silly that we discuss players we have not even watched. It's frankly delusional.

 

[Johan]

Old enough to remember old sachin, the 2011/12 version? Thanks. Sachin pre 2003/04 vs Sachin post 2003 are two different players. If you have not actually watched pre 2003/04, there is no reason to discuss all this. We are all silly that we discuss players we have not even watched. It's frankly delusional.

Yes. I saw Tendulkar at the late 90s as well, I'd rather watch him than Smith anyday, but Smith's results are barely if different at all, and that's all that actually matters.

 

[subshakerz]

McGrath did well in SA too, and not even on easy pitches, like 630/8 type wickets

another strike

I agree McGrath did well in SA, there were some easy pitches and others flatter though he had scoreboard pressure. I think the surfaces in Aus were slightly tougher and this was the best batting lineup he faced at home

 

[Johan]

I agree McGrath did well in SA, there were some easy pitches and others flatter though he had scoreboard pressure. I think the surfaces in Aus were slightly tougher and this was the best batting lineup he faced at home

Scoreboard preassure now?

 

[subshakerz]

Scoreboard preassure now?

Yes it's a real thing.

 

[Johan]

Yes it's a real thing.

minnow bashing>scoreboard preassure

 

[subshakerz]

minnow bashing>scoreboard preassure

Ok

 

[subshakerz]

Scoreboard preassure now?

Btw if you want a live demo of scoreboard pressure helping bowlers to get wickets, look at India vs Eng now.

 

[Thala_0710]

Btw if you want a live demo of scoreboard pressure helping bowlers to get wickets, look at India vs Eng now.

Very underrated point of discussion imo while discussing the greats

 

[Johan]

Btw if you want a live demo of scoreboard pressure helping bowlers to get wickets, look at India vs Eng now.

If you want a live demo of minnow bashing helping bats, watch England vs Zimbabwe

 

[honestbharani]

I don't think Pakistanis would rate Sachin over Smith either, can't vouch it's for cricketing or non cricketing reasons

Nah.. now, Lara on the other hand...

 

[Johan]

Nah.. now, Lara on the other hand...

Hey let's check it!

@subshakerz Lara or Smith?

 

[subshakerz]

If you want a live demo of minnow bashing helping bats, watch England vs Zimbabwe

We all know about minnow bashing.

 

[honestbharani]

Hey let's check it!

@subshakerz Lara or Smith?

God help Pakistan if that is the one you choose to represent them.

 

[subshakerz]

Hey let's check it!

@subshakerz Lara or Smith?

Smith