1st Test (Leeds) - 20th June

[silentstriker]

Where is Uday Hussain when you need him?

 

[halba]

Is he actually the best bowler ever? Probably.

Need another 200 test wickets to be said so. Mcgrath is the best fast bowler so far- 563 test wickets @ 21.64 + longevity. Hardly injured. Bumrah is injured for long periods in his career is the main issue. You cant argue Bumrah is better than Mcgrath as Bumrah only has 206 test wickets , Mcgrath 563 wickets and played many more years without injury.

 

[Johan]

is it recency bias or is this dude legit the most non stop threat ever seen with the ball? every delivery feels like an event.

the form he's found since his come back in 2024 has been immense, he was great before that but moreso in class of Cummins and Rabada, now he has seprated himself.

 

[Daemon]

Prasidh’s gotta pitch it up further, especially to Duckett given his height

 

[Pothas]

Need another 100-150 test wickets to be said so. He is injured for long periods in his career is the main issue.

There are definitely people with better careers but in terms of actual quality I just can't see past him.

 

[Captcha]

without bumrah india's fast bowing attack is just a minnow

 

[Johan]

There are definitely people with better careers but in terms of actual quality I just can't see past him.

he's like a modern day Ambrose.

 

[halba]

I think he is in the elite class of McGrath, Ambrose and Steyn, from the ones I've seen ofcourse

Hadlee, and Shane bond are a few others at that level. Malcolm marshall the WI great also. Bond sadly had the back injury but he was genuinely at that level when he played. Pace, and accuracy and a good action(but one that caused back problems)- Bond.

Scott Boland in Aus conditions as well(only aus conditions)

 

[silentstriker]

Hadlee, and Shane bond are a few others at that level. Bond sadly had the back injury but he was genuinely at that level when he played.

18 Tests just can’t make a decision.

 

[Johan]

why did the Clouds come out now? Is India using some Dwemer Tonal Architecture from Elder Scrolls to control the weather!?

 

[trundler]

Duckett being a compulsive ball feeler (heh) probably isn't ideal in these conditions.

 

[ImpatientLime]

Hadlee, and Shane bond are a few others at that level. Bond sadly had the back injury but he was genuinely at that level when he played.

Scott Boland in Aus conditions as well(only aus conditions)

you think you can drop shane bonds name in there and not have anyone notice?

 

[silentstriker]

Bumrah is the best I’ve personally since since McGrath.

 

[ImpatientLime]

he's like a modern day Ambrose.

i absolutely love big curtly, probably my favourite cricketer ever. but he could be sat on when he wasn't getting any irregular bounce or sideways movement off the pitch.

this bloke is just a non stop menace.

 

[Johan]

Bumrah is the best I’ve personally since since McGrath.

Bumrah vs Steyn in skill would be a good discussion in a few years

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Marshall is a good comparison for Bumrah

 

[silentstriker]

Bumrah vs Steyn in skill would be a good discussion in a few years

Yes, right now Bumrah is ahead. But have to wait until careers are over.

 

[Johan]

i absolutely love big curtly, probably my favourite cricketer ever. but he could be sat on when he wasn't getting any irregular bounce or sideways movement off the pitch.

TBF, under these clouds with dukes I think Ambrose would be...a pretty big problem too, but Yeah Bumrah has a better skillset for dead wickets, especially since you just know he's gonna be reversing it tommorrow.

 

[halba]

without bumrah india's fast bowing attack is just a minnow

Worse. Even Windies attack is better than Indias imho - without bumrah.

 

[Johan]

Worse. Even Windies attack is better than Indias imho - without bumrah.

England pace attack vs Indian pace attack minus Bumrah is a great comparison!