*Official* South African tour of England and Ireland 2022

[Howe_zat]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but... Broad now ranks #40 on the list of all-time run-scorers for England, just below Greig. The other names above them who also bowled substantially are just: Flintoff, Botham, Stokes, and I suppose Hammond, unless I've missed someone obvious. So is Broad legitimately one of the greatest England allrounders ever?

This is a curious question given that Stuart Broad is the greatest batsman of all time

edit: I stand by this

 

[cnerd123]

Fear the NightHawk.

good timing

 

[trundler]

Wonder if Trundler is so anti-Buttler because 50% of his test centuries came against Pakistan

I saw Foakes keep impeccably on rank turners on debut. Scored a magnificent ton too. Then he fell out of favour and spent years out of the side for Buttler who never did anything in either department but was always surrounded by talk of coming good eventually. Also I just pick random hills and become intensely obnoxious about my chosen causes.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

good timing

Strong NightHawk innings imo.

 

[wpdavid]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but... Broad now ranks #40 on the list of all-time run-scorers for England, just below Greig. The other names above them who also bowled substantially are just: Flintoff, Botham, Stokes, and I suppose Hammond, unless I've missed someone obvious. So is Broad legitimately one of the greatest England allrounders ever?

Obviously. Although Ray Illingworth scored more runs for England than young Stuart too.

 

[nick-o]

This is a curious question given that Stuart Broad is the greatest batsman of all time

edit: I stand by this

I think you are mis-remembering here; it seems like it was just yesterday that Jimmy Anderson overtook WG's career total -- by now, he has nearly 20 percent more runs than WG's tally, and everyone accepts WG was previously considered the greatest.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Stokes and Foakes v the team who chokes.

 

[Heboric]

Stokes and Foakes v the team who chokes.

Pretty lame even for these parts

 

[Nintendo]

Stokes and Foakes v the team who are woak.

 

[nick-o]

Obviously. Although Ray Illingworth scored more runs for England than young Stuart too.

Really? Either me or statsguru has had too much to drink tonight.

 

[Nintendo]

Really? Either me or statsguru has had too much to drink tonight.

No david is just wrong, broad has nearly twice as many runs as illingworth does for england.

 

[wpdavid]

No david is just wrong, broad has nearly twice as many runs as illingworth does for england.

Yup, I stand corrected. I was looking at Illingworth's runs conceded when bowling.

 

[Nintendo]

Yup, I stand corrected. I was looking at Illingworth's runs conceded when bowling.

I just read the same thing and was coming here to say I was wrong and apologize lmf.

 

[wpdavid]

I just read the same thing and was coming here to say I was wrong and apologize lmf.

I think that cricinfo have only recently changed the layout so that bowling stats are shown above batting stats for players who are/were primarily bowlers.

 

[wpdavid]

So very well played Foakes.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Got to say that the new keeper looks good for SA. You hardly notice him which I think is a good thing with your keeper.

As for the English one, brilliant innings. Well played lad.

 

[Nintendo]

How is foakes so handesome.

 

[trundler]

Yeah baby a ton in a precarious situation to put his team on top against the best pace attack in the world.

Hasn't looked the most reassuring against pace but such jamminess only elevates a good keeper knock.

 

[Gremlin]

Thrilled for Foakes. Well batted. Hope the tail can stick with him!

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Could be handy to get bowled out and have half an hour plus at them with a 250 lead.