Wasim Akram vs Dennis Lillee

[The Sean]

Given that Zaheer Khan and Walsh are in the same ballpark, PFK probably has a point in comparing Zaheer and Lillee. Just need to find the right metrics with that goal in mind.

I may be taking this post out of context, but what ballpark are Khan and Walsh in together? Certainly not the one marked "fast bowling quality."

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

What are you trying to prove or accomplish?

Top order % without considering wpm is a stupid metric.

 

[_00_deathscar]

. Easily the worst bowler to take 300 test wickets, and monumentally bad for someone who had his ceiling when he was actually on song (about one test in 15 across his career).

I thought he was only on song once?

 

[_00_deathscar]

I may be taking this post out of context, but what ballpark are Khan and Walsh in together? Certainly not the one marked "fast bowling quality."

Maybe the “workhorse-iest fast bowler going” ballpark?

 

[h_hurricane]

I may be taking this post out of context, but what ballpark are Khan and Walsh in together? Certainly not the one marked "fast bowling quality."

Stephen once famously said so. Or rather infamously.

 

[honestbharani]

I may be taking this post out of context, but what ballpark are Khan and Walsh in together? Certainly not the one marked "fast bowling quality."

Mumbai Indians. They can, and will, buy everyone.

 

[h_hurricane]

Stephen once famously said so. Or rather infamously.

Took me about half an hour, but here is the post.

The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

This is high degree generalizing. You would not see many indians considering Kumble as an ATG. Take my post with a pinch of salt.

www.cricketweb.net

 

[subshakerz]

Another sort of down mark for Wasim was that he wasnt the most destructive bowler out there. Rarely threatened to run through the opposition lineup. Only took 1 expensive 7-fer in a long career.

 

[Kirkut]

Another sort of down mark for Wasim was that he wasnt the most destructive bowler out there. Rarely threatened to run through the opposition lineup. Only took 1 expensive 7-fer in a long career.

He was blockbuster in ODIs.

I clearly remember that spell he bowled at MCG in 1996 where he nearly defended 160 odd.

 

[Slifer]

Took me about half an hour, but here is the post.

The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

This is high degree generalizing. You would not see many indians considering Kumble as an ATG. Take my post with a pinch of salt.

www.cricketweb.net

Yeah but in his defense, he did admit to not knowing much about Walsh. Bagapath was probably as bad as well. He rated Botham the bowler above Pollock and Walsh.

 

[subshakerz]

He was blockbuster in ODIs.

I clearly remember that spell he bowled at MCG in 1996 where he nearly defended 160 odd.

Yeah that was a great spell of reverse swing.

 

[Line and Length]

Not too many posts relating to the thread title. Can we conclude, from the voting here, Lillee>Wasim?

 

[Coronis]

Not too many posts relating to the thread title. Can we conclude, from the voting here, Lillee>Wasim?

Based on how close the vote is, I’d say no. Most people probably don’t have them next to each other in their rankings but objectively thats probably where they should end up if we did a full CW opinion. Personally, I wouldn’t have a problem with any list that has either ahead of the other, I think they’re very comparable despite very different careers and would have both in my top 10, likely right next to each other.

 

[Gob]

U wot? Lillee spent the first part of his career bowling outswing at about 90mph. He also bowled some brilliant spells on the MCG wicket in the early 80s which was as flat as any deck could get.

Looks as quick as Shoaib tbh

 

[Burgey]

Love young tear away Lillee highlights. There’s some good stuff of the ROW series out here when he wrecked them in Perth that’s crazy stuff. Sobers saying he walked out to bat and said to Ian Chappell “what are you all doing way back there?” a quality bit of banter

 

[Gob]

It's worth noticing how different his action though with arms going all over the place. Not as drastic but Cummins was bit similar in the early days when his upper body seem to pivot a lot at the delivery stride. No wonder Lillee was one of Cummins's great mentors

 

[Burgey]

It’s probably what caused his stress fractures. When he came back his action and approach were a lot more controlled

 

[honestbharani]

There are some guys who are best to coach the younger talent. Greg Chappell, Dennis Lillee etc. Hopefully Rahul Dravid does not belong in this list.

 

[Kirkut]

Fun fact: Lillee was a pure cardio person, he enjoyed long runs and sprints. Never took interest in gym or weight training!

 

[Burgey]

Interesting

especially given the footage of him in the gym with Frank Pike as he rehabbed and strengthened his back using….. resistance training