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Wasim Akram vs Dennis Lillee

Who was the greater bowler?

  • Wasim Akram

    Votes: 19 46.3%
  • Dennis Lillee

    Votes: 22 53.7%

  • Total voters
    41

a massive zebra

International Vice-Captain
Dennis Lillee easily for me.
  • Lillee was a better matchwinner. He took 6 tenfors in 31 wins vs Wasim's 2 tenfors in 41 wins.
  • Lillee more impactful. He took a lot more big hauls, including significantly more 10 fors and almost the same number of 5 fors in 34 less matches.
  • Lillee took far more wickets per match - over 5 wpm vs under 4 wpm is a big difference over a long career. If Lillee had maintained his wickets per match over the same number of matches as Wasim, he would have ended up with well over 100 more wickets.
  • Lillee took a far higher proportion of top order wickets. Wasim very rarely ran through a top order and his proportion of lower order wickets is among the highest of the great fast bowlers.
  • Lillee led his attack for almost his whole career. Wasim had Waqar who was statistically a better bowler for the first half of their careers.
 

Coronis

International Regular
  • Lillee led his attack for almost his whole career. Wasim had Waqar who was statistically a better bowler for the first half of their careers.
Not necessarily disagreeing with your conclusion or the rest of your post but you have to admit this had a fair bit to do with Lillee being more impactful and taking more wickets per match.
 

subshakerz

State Captain
Akram from his peak 90-97 was better than Lillee at any time in his career. But overall career wise its Lillee..
 

Kirkut

International Debutant
Akram. Lillee was a hit the deck seam bowler and had his limitations while bowling on roads, Akram could conjure up a match winning spell out of nowhere in any situation.
 

Migara

Cricketer Of The Year
Dennis Lillee easily for me.
  • Lillee was a better matchwinner. He took 6 tenfors in 31 wins vs Wasim's 2 tenfors in 41 wins.
  • Lillee more impactful. He took a lot more big hauls, including significantly more 10 fors and almost the same number of 5 fors in 34 less matches.
  • Lillee took far more wickets per match - over 5 wpm vs under 4 wpm is a big difference over a long career. If Lillee had maintained his wickets per match over the same number of matches as Wasim, he would have ended up with well over 100 more wickets.
  • Lillee took a far higher proportion of top order wickets. Wasim very rarely ran through a top order and his proportion of lower order wickets is among the highest of the great fast bowlers.
  • Lillee led his attack for almost his whole career. Wasim had Waqar who was statistically a better bowler for the first half of their careers.
I am interested using the same metrics in McGrath vs Hadlee comparison
 

TheJediBrah

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Don't know much about Lillee but Akram is one of the most overrated bowlers ever. What a massive zebra said is correct re. cleaning up the tail. It's a useful skill but not if it comes at the cost of getting proper batsmen out as often as the best. People often put Akram in their top 10 but that's very generous, that's before we even get into the potential impact of (and reliance on) ball-tampering
 

stephen

Hall of Fame Member
Lillee to lead the attack if I had to pick one. Akram to bowl first change in my ATG side behind Marshall and McGrath.
 

Pap Finn Keighl

State Vice-Captain
Don't know much about Lillee but Akram is one of the most overrated bowlers ever. What a massive zebra said is correct re. cleaning up the tail. It's a useful skill but not if it comes at the cost of getting proper batsmen out as often as the best. People often put Akram in their top 10 but that's very generous, that's before we even get into the potential impact of (and reliance on) ball-tampering
Thats mainly due to two reasons
1. Long career
2. Lack of support from fielders

His low WPM is the result of extra long career. Otherwise he had very good ratio of WPM and good share of top order wickets. Percentage is not a good metric.

Major share of his wickets came by LBWs and Bowled wickets. For example,
Mcgrath's wicket tally consists of 375 caught or caught behind wickets ie, 66.5% a massive 20% more than Akram's.

Akram is the most underrated bowler in CW.
 

TheJediBrah

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Thats mainly due to two reasons
1. Long career
2. Lack of support from fielders

His low WPM is the result of extra long career. Otherwise he had very good ratio of WPM and good share of top order wickets. Percentage is not a good metric.

Major share of his wickets came by LBWs and Bowled wickets. For example,
Mcgrath's wicket tally consists of 375 caught or caught behind wickets ie, 66.5% a massive 20% more than Akram's.

Akram is the most underrated bowler in CW.
Heh not sucking me in today brother
 

Burgey

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Lillee was a hit the deck seam bowler and had his limitations while bowling on roads
U wot? Lillee spent the first part of his career bowling outswing at about 90mph. He also bowled some brilliant spells on the MCG wicket in the early 80s which was as flat as any deck could get.
 

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