Lee and Waqar's stats are virtually the same.Lee easily
Nah Waqar can singLee and Waqar's stats are virtually the same.
Once Waqar's pace fell away, he reinvented himself as a new ball bowler from around 2000 onwards.Waqar has the highest number of 5-fers in ODIs by a huge margin - 13 in (just) 252 games. The second best Murali has 10 in 350 games. Wasim has 6 in 356 and McGrath has 7 in an almost identical 250 games. Waqar also has the record for the most 4-fers+ (27), naturally.
He is the only bowler ever to take 3 5-fers in consecutive ODIs. In June 2001, when I was 7, he got a 7-fer against England and then a 6-fer against Australia within a space of 3 days with 1 rest day separating the matches. This is one of my earliest vivid memories of properly watching and (somewhat) understanding cricket and I was in complete awe of this force of nature. I remember asking my brother why he was supporting Pakistan as they were supposed to be our rivals. He then gave me a 5 minute crash course on colonialism which I remember to be the first time I heard that word.
And Lee played in a much higher scoring era.Lee and Waqar's stats are virtually the same.
Bond played in nearly the exact same era as Lee. Lee started maybe just 2 years earlier, and I think he carried on a few years after maybe? Either way massive stretch to say that Bond "played in a worse era for bowlers", eepecially when his appearances were so sporadic, relatively speakingIt isnt even close between him and guys like Lee or Waqar, particularly considering the era argument you raised for Lee vs Waqar... Bond played in a worse era for bowlers than either.
Fair enough compared to Lee. Era difficulty cant be meaningfully differentiated... had my dates a bit wrong.Bond played in nearly the exact same era as Lee. Lee started maybe just 2 years earlier, and I think he carried on a few years after maybe? Either way massive stretch to say that Bond "played in a worse era for bowlers", eepecially when his appearances were so sporadic, relatively speaking
Yeah I'd say Bond too. But Lee with the white ball was closer than you think. That **** was unplayable at times with pace + accuracy + swing. I think people forget how good Lee was in ODIs because of how meh he was in TestsFair enough compared to Lee. Era difficulty cant be meaningfully differentiated... had my dates a bit wrong.
My point stands though. Bond is so obviously a superior bowler when fit that it isnt worth discussing, but IMO not worth comparing to either.
Lee was a bowler of 2 extremes in odis i think. One of the best ever with the new ball, but more liable than most atgs to melt at the death.Yeah I'd say Bond too. But Lee with the white ball was closer than you think. That **** was unplayable at times with pace + accuracy + swing. I think people forget how good Lee was in ODIs because of how meh he was in Tests