***Official*** India's Tour of Australia 2020/21 - General discussion

[Spark]

Urgh I hate that xG **** in football and am pretty sure I'll hate it even more in cricket.

xG in football is good and second only to how mad boomer pundits get about it when you mention it

 

[Prince EWS]

xG in football is good and second only to how mad boomer pundits get about it when you mention it

TIL vcs is a boomer pundit.

 

[vcs]

Haha

I'm a nerd about Math but the invasion of stats and BigDataAnalysis in cricket with complicated Math models etc makes me.. Urgh

 

[Teja.]

Worst stat going around rampant in cricket now is batting average v specific bowlers.

 

[Prince EWS]

Worst stat going around rampant in cricket now is batting average v specific bowlers.

It's better than it used to be though, because people used to think Cricinfo would tell them this when it actually just told them average when dismissed by bowler.

It still sucks though, at least in Tests, because that's not how Test batting works. If you can see out a particular bowler and milk the rest then that's fine.

 

[honestbharani]

Worst stat going around rampant in cricket now is batting average v specific bowlers.

One for that thread, then.

 

[Teja.]

It's better than it used to be though, because people used to think Cricinfo would tell them this when it actually just told them average when dismissed by bowler.

It still sucks though, at least in Tests, because that's not how Test batting works. If you can see out a particular bowler and milk the rest then that's fine.

Yeah exactly. It's such a meme stat.

 

[Flem274*]

how does that cricviz stat deal with more unorthodox bowlers like a wagner?

basically does this system have any depth or does it just go off 'ball in corridor equals snick'

 

[Spark]

how does that cricviz stat deal with more unorthodox bowlers like a wagner?

basically does this system have any depth or does it just go off 'ball in corridor equals snick'

No idea, ask them. But according to them, apparently the major weaknesses are actually bowlers who rely on pressure and subtle seam movement rather than extravagant pace or swing.

 

[honestbharani]

At a basic level, you would think it considers the field you have set.

 

[honestbharani]

apparently the major weaknesses are actually bowlers who rely on pressure and subtle seam movement

That is literally the new Ishant's mojo though.

 

[stephen]

No idea, ask them. But according to them, apparently the major weaknesses are actually bowlers who rely on pressure and subtle seam movement rather than extravagant pace or swing.

So Cummins.

 

[Spark]

That is literally the new Ishant's mojo though.

The cricviz twitter account says that it really underrates Cummins and Abbas as a result.

 

[Spark]

So Cummins.

Yep:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1350053661502820353

 

[honestbharani]

The cricviz twitter account says that it really underrates Cummins and Abbas as a result.

It would be interesting to ask them to look at how there is such a difference between Ishant and Cummins though. I obviously think Cummins should be higher but in terms of MO Ishant is the same as Cummins and Abbas.

 

[stephen]

Cummins is as good as McGrath at setting up top order batsmen. I think he does the same for tail enders too but he over thinks them and so his plans don't work as well.

 

[Starfighter]

It would be interesting to ask them to look at how there is such a difference between Ishant and Cummins though. I obviously think Cummins should be higher but in terms of MO Ishant is the same as Cummins and Abbas.

Ishant swings the ball a lot more, Cummins barely moves in the air these days. Heck, he doesn't even move it much off the pitch.

 

[Shri]

Ishant swings the ball a lot more, Cummins barely moves in the air these days. Heck, he doesn't even move it much off the pitch.

you don't need to

just have to move it enough aka mcgrath

 

[Burgey]

Ishant swings the ball a lot more, Cummins barely moves in the air these days. Heck, he doesn't even move it much off the pitch.

Yeah he’s a hack. Can’t work out how he takes a wicket tbh

 

[honestbharani]

Hardik and Krunal Pandya lost their father today. RIP.