Shri
Mr. Glass
You mean like this match when he didn't bat? Jee I don't know man, maybe you are onto something:
Only T20I: South Africa v India at Johannesburg, Mar 30, 2012 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
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Is MS Dhoni an ATG OdI batsmen?
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Only T20I: South Africa v India at Johannesburg, Mar 30, 2012 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
srbhkshk
International Captain
I wanted to discuss with overall stats just for this reason.
srbhkshk
International Captain
Oh **** me, one rain affected match explains his career. Silly me.
Shri
Mr. Glass
Yeah, find some match examples for your twisted logic that no one can understand. Odds are you aren't going to find many and then we can show you why you are wrong.
srbhkshk
International Captain
Twisted logic? Really?
Him scoring at a SR of 119 when the team bats first is twisted logic??
Him scoring at an overall SR of 123 when coming at 6 is twisted logic??
Shri
Mr. Glass
He's a lower middle order bat who usually bats with one good partner at the other end in T20Is and mostly has to bat with the tail. So yeah, when we lose, a whole lot of things usually go wrong before he gets out to the middle with the bat.
Shri
Mr. Glass
Examples. Go get them. You are the one who is obsessed with proving something here. Trawl through games and prove your point or get laughed at.
srbhkshk
International Captain
If you can't understand why someone who scores at 119 while batting first may not be a good T20 batsman? By all means, keep laughing.
Shri
Mr. Glass
No proof then? Ok.
srbhkshk
International Captain
13th Match, Group E: India v New Zealand at Johannesburg, Sep 16, 2007 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
Final: India v Pakistan at Johannesburg, Sep 24, 2007 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
Only T20I: Sri Lanka v India at Colombo (RPS), Feb 10, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
2nd T20I: New Zealand v India at Wellington, Feb 27, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
16th Match, Group E: India v West Indies at Lord's, Jun 12, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
24th Match, Group E: India v South Africa at Nottingham, Jun 16, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
Only T20I: India v England at Kolkata, Oct 29, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
16th Match, Group 2: Australia v India at Colombo (RPS), Sep 28, 2012 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
1st T20I: Zimbabwe v India at Harare, Jun 18, 2016 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
And here are examples where his slow batting either ****ed or almost ****ed the match for India.
Final: India v Pakistan at Johannesburg, Sep 24, 2007 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
Only T20I: Sri Lanka v India at Colombo (RPS), Feb 10, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
2nd T20I: New Zealand v India at Wellington, Feb 27, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
16th Match, Group E: India v West Indies at Lord's, Jun 12, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
24th Match, Group E: India v South Africa at Nottingham, Jun 16, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
Only T20I: India v England at Kolkata, Oct 29, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
16th Match, Group 2: Australia v India at Colombo (RPS), Sep 28, 2012 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
1st T20I: Zimbabwe v India at Harare, Jun 18, 2016 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
And here are examples where his slow batting either ****ed or almost ****ed the match for India.
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"successful chases "aren't the only ones that count.
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Let's be clear here, sr of 119 batting first is definitely nowhere near impressive, for any batsman, let alone a batsman who bats lower down the order.
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Indian mafia like circlejerk at it again
edit: Ah, beaten by Dameon.
edit: Ah, beaten by Dameon.
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Shri
Mr. Glass
Yes, but he still averages 50 and strikes at about 130 in all chases.
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Right, but his first innings stats aren't impressive. SR of 119 is pretty mediocre tstl for a guy who bats 5-6.
Shri
Mr. Glass
So he failed 5 times in his career? What a terrible bat. Clearly shouldn't be playing for India.
Shri
Mr. Glass
Yeah, its kinda arrogant in a way I guess. He knows that he can strike it better than anyone in the world if he sticks around till the end but sometimes he just gets out before he can launch.
srbhkshk
International Captain
Are you for real? Do you understand the concept of strawmen?
These are not personal failures, a personal failure will be 4(3) or something, these kinds of innings are a personal failure + almost a guarantee of team defeat. Do you want me to go over his full career and call out every match where he failed? You asked for examples, not a career summary. There are many many more innings where he failed / did nothing worthwhile. And he bats at 6th position, 12 balls is like 10% of all balls your team is gonna face, there is no such thing as "only 10-12 balls" in T20 cricket, one over is enough to make the difference.
