Would be stupid if they feel they have to approach it that way. Chap had his day in court, was found not guilty, so it's end of. Screw the media, and either way there'll be a ****storm whether he debuts overseas or not. In that respect I feel it's probably better for NZ cricket and Kuggs if he played whenever he's the next cab of the rank in terms of earning the call up.
Just coming in to post that.... I`m glad its him, he bowled pretty well for SA before getting injured and he seems to be returning to some form. Getting captaincy role I think has helped him. At the same time do think Shamsi must be a long term consideration for SA.
like it or not PR is part of doing business in the public eye. Of course they're going to be careful with it.
Being cognisant of PR stuff is one thing, but not picking a player the selectors believe warrants a place in the side (assuming they do) for this very reason really is tail wagging dog stuff IMO.
Agree with that. I think Piedt and Harmer are our next best First-class spinners. They've done the hard yards and proved themselves over a number of seasons. When it comes to limited overs cricket they both fall down the pecking order.
Hopefully he looked at the weather before all the rain happened and tried to keep it as hard as possible. At least the forecast looks good bar a bit of Saturday. High winds and some rain.
i'd be less worried about that because it's inevitable to come from someone and more worried about the team. they're humans with opinions too, and if they followed the trial and read some of the icky details then they might not exactly hold kuggs in the highest regard.
Yeah, he was found not guilty so shouldn't be stopped from playing but sheesh he sounds like an absolute gross creep. Exactly the kind of stereotype of an entitled arsehole sportsman.
Maybe if we were England, operating in the Fleet Street red-tops environment. But this is New Zealand, with a very low profile sportsman and from what I observed (and I'm a very keen follower of media) a reasonably low profile case.
Just read about the case. He does sound like a piece of work (apparently she was 'asking for it' because she wore a short skirt) but he was acquitted and must be treated as someone who has not committed a crime. Makhaya Ntini was found guilty of rape, which was overturned on appeal, and he had a full career for South Africa.
Yeah...I dunno if that's him that was the piece of work or his lawyer - I didn't follow the case too closely but sentiment seemed to be in here that his lawyer led the case down a murky, awful path to do with slut shaming, no means yes and her declaring she was on the pill, which was consent. The whole thing did seem like it stunk and obviously that attaches to him as a correlation. But yeah, as you say, he must be treated as an innocent man. He should have also been for NZ A when he 'chose' (read was likely told to) step down from consideration due to the upcoming case.
Pretty much my thoughts. And I accept he's been found not guilty and should be picked if he deserves a spot. But I'll find it pretty difficult if not impossible to cheer for a side with him in it.
Nah, McC is injured and hasn't played all season and even considering that his FC numbers have never been flash (averages 36). Wheeler another serial crock though would be closer to a call-up if he could stay on the park. Milne's played about 3 FC games in the last 3 years, and hasn't exactly dazzled in any of them . The only one who'd even be in the conversation would be Ferguson, but his poor returns in ODI's are probably likely to count against him in the short term.
Fair enough, I admit I don't know much of any of the bowlers I've mentioned first class records.
