How much time does Test cricket have left?

[Furball]

It's also not true. Moeen and Rashid are English.

 

[S.Kennedy]

Asians, despite their profligacy in their own Northern clubs, have been disproportionately underrepresented in England, or our domestic structure; it seems that is beginning to change now which can only be a good thing.

 

[GotSpin]

Wah Wah, test cricket is dying. I swear this has been said since the 50s

Test cricket reigns supreme over the Big Bash League in battle for TV ratings

 

[Compton]

Why is luck and raw talent not playing as big a part a negative thing?

 

[Groundking]

Asians, despite their profligacy in their own Northern clubs, have been disproportionately underrepresented in England, or our domestic structure; it seems that is beginning to change now which can only be a good thing.

If they're not good enough they don't deserve to be represented...

 

[S.Kennedy]

If they're not good enough they don't deserve to be represented...

True, but it is equally true that you would not want Asians who are good enough to go unnoticed.

 

[cnerd123]

Sounds like 9 are ahead of the game in that respect.

Remember how the advent of T20 was supposed to kill off Test cricket? India, one of the game's biggest ODI exponents, have just come off the back of their first 5 Test home series in what must be 30 years, and are only hosting England for 3 ODIs when a decade ago it would have been a 3/7 split.

Gideon Haigh in his Ashes 2010/11 book lamented the death of the 5 Test series outwith the Ashes. England and India have just played 2 in the last 2 and a half years and have another scheduled in 2018. Australia and South Africa are scheduled for 4 in 2018. At the very top of the game we're now trending towards longer Test series.

Yeah and India are touring SA for 4 tests too, which never happens.

For all the **** we give the BCCI, they have repeatedly stated their commitment to Test cricket, and their actions prove that this is not just lip service.

Also, the fact that we have forums, websites, new outlets, radio and TV programming all speculating about the future of Test Cricket suggests to me that Test Cricket has enough of an audience that it is not going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[artvandalay]

Not sure why this is a problem or indicative of one?

No problem, just a reflection of changing demographics and that sticky wicket called national identity. If the subcontinent is where the money's at , considering their population its not unthinkable that more than naturalised Asians you could have migrants playing for Australia, Nzl and England. Which is not a problem unless the system isn't natively producing any good cricketers anymore as in UAE , Oman or Hong Kong.

 

[cnerd123]

No problem, just a reflection of changing demographics and that sticky wicket called national identity. If the subcontinent is where the money's at , considering their population its not unthinkable that more than naturalised Asians you could have migrants playing for Australia, Nzl and England. Which is not a problem unless the system isn't natively producing any good cricketers anymore as in UAE , Oman or Hong Kong.

oh ffs

 

[Daemon]

No problem, just a reflection of changing demographics and that sticky wicket called national identity. If the subcontinent is where the money's at , considering their population its not unthinkable that more than naturalised Asians you could have migrants playing for Australia, Nzl and England. Which is not a problem unless the system isn't natively producing any good cricketers anymore as in UAE , Oman or Hong Kong.

Not sure of the use of the word 'anymore' there when they've rarely, if ever, had locals in the first place. I think expats have done amazing things for cricket in associate nations. They create a demand for the sport and it's facilities, create competition without which the sport simply wouldn't grow. What most have started to do well is have the kids of these expats, citizens of the country, who are far more integrated into the local culture, represent them at the highest levels. The challenging part is getting the rest of the country involved, which is proving next to impossible atm. Still, it's definitely a step in the right direction for cricket,

I seem to have lost track of what I was trying argue

 

[GotSpin]

For all the **** we give the BCCI, they have repeatedly stated their commitment to Test cricket, and their actions prove that this is not just lip service.

Also, the fact that we have forums, websites, new outlets, radio and TV programming all speculating about the future of Test Cricket suggests to me that Test Cricket has enough of an audience that it is not going anywhere anytime soon.

They've even been asking people to come to the ground dressed up as chairs! It's awesome

 

[Furball]

No problem, just a reflection of changing demographics and that sticky wicket called national identity. If the subcontinent is where the money's at , considering their population its not unthinkable that more than naturalised Asians you could have migrants playing for Australia, Nzl and England. Which is not a problem unless the system isn't natively producing any good cricketers anymore as in UAE , Oman or Hong Kong.

I'm going to put it out there that subcontinental migrants playing for England will never happen.

 

[OverratedSanity]

They've even been asking people to come to the ground dressed up as chairs! It's awesome

Nah, crowds for this home summer were generally decent.

 

[Flem274*]

migrants playing for their adopted country isn't an issue imo. so what if someone lived in india until they were 16 before moving overseas for uni or whatever and ending up playing for that country?

Auckland has loads of Asian and African first and second generation migrants, and this is reflected in players on their roster - jeet raval, colin de grandhomme, colin munro, bhuphinder singh, ish sodhi (age group rep) and donovan grobbelaar amongst others. Every other **** from the rich parts of Auckland is a saffer.

They're starting to filter through to the provincial and national team and I don't see why this is a bad thing. It's a fair reflection of the changing demographics in the country. .

 

[harsh.ag]

At least another 140 years.

Lindy effect, everybody. Burgey on the money.

 

[artvandalay]

Not sure of the use of the word 'anymore' there when they've rarely, if ever, had locals in the first place. I think expats have done amazing things for cricket in associate nations. They create a demand for the sport and it's facilities, create competition without which the sport simply wouldn't grow. What most have started to do well is have the kids of these expats, citizens of the country, who are far more integrated into the local culture, represent them at the highest levels. The challenging part is getting the rest of the country involved, which is proving next to impossible atm. Still, it's definitely a step in the right direction for cricket,

I seem to have lost track of what I was trying argue

Yea forget the Gulf states and Hong Kong who don't have the population anyway. How many locally produced cricketers can Canada or USA field for a WC match tomorrow other than rejects from the test playing nations? I'm hoping the Chinese or the Germans have a cricket team within the next 20 years that is of test standard, if they start now they could definitely win a WC in that time and upset the applecart knowing how efficient they both are.

 

[91Jmay]

Until Trump nukes someone for criticising his hair.

 

[TheJediBrah]

oh ffs

Serious question, has Hong Kong ever produced a good cricketer? as in really decent international standard?

 

[cnerd123]

Serious question, has Hong Kong ever produced a good cricketer? as in really decent international standard?

Dermot Reeve learned his cricket in HK, as did Mark Chapman who is currently kicking butt in NZ domestix and is verge of NZ selection if the NZ posters are to be believed. Nizakat Khan literally just whack a hundred in a T20 against a full strength Sydney Sixers, and HK have beaten a full strength Bangladesh in the World T20

 

[TheJediBrah]

Dermot Reeve learned his cricket in HK, as did Mark Chapman who is currently kicking butt in NZ domestix and is verge of NZ selection if the NZ posters are to be believed. Nizakat Khan literally just whack a hundred in a T20 against a full strength Sydney Sixers, and HK have beaten a full strength Bangladesh in the World T20

So no successful international players? I've never heard of any of those guys (not that that's saying much)