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Jonbrooks chucking Megathread

TheJediBrah

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IMO, if someone visibly looks like they're chucking then the batting team can use a review, then the 3rd umpire watches the replay with his ICC-issue protractor held up against his little screen to see if the bowler chucked it.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
How do you know that a bouncer would produce lesser extension? Out of the arse argument, unfortunately.
It's not the extension which is the issue. It's the use of the elbow for force which goes against the essence what the old law stood for. It's possible to bowl the Yorker and bouncer legally. Not that all club bowlers and some intl bowlers do it legally
 

Migara

Cricketer Of The Year
Old laws were perfectly fine. They worked for 150 years. After television came in you can argue to revise the laws but revise it correctly then without losing the essence of what a Chuck is. At least the old laws had that essence which the new law doesn't.
Ayurveda worked fine for 3000 years. Shall we get back to it over allopathic medicine? LMAO.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
IMO, if someone visibly looks like they're chucking then the batting team can use a review, then the 3rd umpire watches the replay with his ICC-issue protractor held up against his little screen to see if the bowler chucked it.

Who makes sure the protractors are unbiased? And 3rd umpire? Didn't you learn anything from the Adelaide D/N test? :)
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
It's not the extension which is the issue. It's the use of the elbow for force which goes against the essence what the old law stood for. It's possible to bowl the Yorker and bouncer legally. Not that all club bowlers and some intl bowlers do it legally

Start using the term in its proper context. You don't get to define what is legal and what isn't. The ICC laws do and they are all legal, the doosras, yorkers and bouncers by the new laws. Understanding words and terms a problem too now, is it? Its not just facts anymore, I guess.
 

Migara

Cricketer Of The Year
Bowl both the deliveries. Or measure velocity at elbow. You will understand.
I don't want "bowl and see", "you will understand" type of bull****. What it shows is you are not sure what will happen if such a test is carried out. Your posting is full of hypothesis, sometimes ridiculous to the level of being on the weed. Either come up with numbers, or chill out
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
I don't want "bowl and see", "you will understand" type of bull****. What it shows is you are not sure what will happen if such a test is carried out. Your posting is full of hypothesis, sometimes ridiculous to the level of being on the weed. Either come up with numbers, or chill out
No, no, no and no.
 

cnerd123

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It's not the extension which is the issue. It's the use of the elbow for force which goes against the essence what the old law stood for. It's possible to bowl the Yorker and bouncer legally. Not that all club bowlers and some intl bowlers do it legally
Every ****ing bowler in the history of the ****ing game uses their elbow to generate force. How are you not getting this fact into your thick head

This is ATG levels of ignorance, stupidity and stubbornness
 

Migara

Cricketer Of The Year
You must be chucking them or maybe you are not powerful or maybe you are bowling them wrongly. Bouncers and Yorkers can be bowled without chucking them though.
Ha ha! So you admit that you must be bowling the doosra wrongly?
 

Migara

Cricketer Of The Year
If someone can bowl a doosra with <15 degrees, it's legal. It's hard to do though.
Yes, a bloke who was much more powerfully built (Kaushal) got half of them below 15 degrees. People like Murali who are unbelievably hypermobile can get everything below 15 given the freaky physiology and biomechanics they have.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Every ****ing bowler in the history of the ****ing game uses their elbow to generate force. How are you not getting this fact into your thick head

This is ATG levels of ignorance, stupidity and stubbornness
You think McGrath and Murali are at same plane. That's ignorance dude.
 

Migara

Cricketer Of The Year
Holding, Bedi, SJS, Faaip, a few other cw posters think the law wasn't ammended properly at the time. So I am not the only one who believes this. Cheers.
None of these are experts in biomechanics. I can safely say I know about human anatomy and physiology better than few of those gentlemen.
 

cnerd123

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Yes, a bloke who was much more powerfully built (Kaushal) got half of them below 15 degrees. People like Murali who are unbelievably hypermobile can get everything below 15 given the freaky physiology and biomechanics they have.
While Saqlain was never tested, he was clean too. He developed the ball as a kid, bowled it in tennis ball cricket for several years, and even then he claims it took him around 3 years to develop the muscle strength to be able to bowl it with a cricket ball.

And Pratters is shocked he cant bowl it properly the first time he tries it. Amazing.
 

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