*Official* New Zealand in Bangladesh 2010

[smash84]

Indian bowlers are perennially under-rated. FTR, in the series that Aussie is referring to, it was the batsmen and not the bowlers that let India down.

Well, Indian bowlers have not been the best in the world since the time that I started watching cricket. Their batting though has been in a league of its own.

 

[vcs]

Well, Indian bowlers have not been the best in the world since the time that I started watching cricket. Their batting though has been in a league of its own.

Absolutely not the best in the world. Good enough to do a job, definitely.

 

[aussie]

Haha, I love how it is irrelevant when Australia lost in 2008 but totally relevant that they won the bloody TVS Cup in 2003 with probably only two or three players from both sides at the time who are still playing.

And FFS, did you actually watch that 2009 series? It was the batting that let India down, not the bowling. Same in the recent tri-series that they lost in SL.

How is it relevant?. The won the VB series, clap clap, well done. Cricket goes on.

We are talking about the chances of full-strenght PAK team being the best challegers to an AUS team who has a perfect record in ODIs in India over the last decade. So how can India beating AUS in on ODI series in AUS condtions, relevant to how records & past performaces between the two sides in Indian/SC condtions???

India batting & bowling let them down in that series depending on the match in question. They should have closed AUS off after 4th ODI with all the major injureies AUS had. But ther average/crap bowling brought AUS back into series in the 4th ODI & that experienced batting line-up (except for Tendy & his 175) cracked under pressure againts that inexperienced AUS attack, when they had the game for the taking.

 

[vcs]

You're kidding yourself if you think ODI conditions vary greatly depending on country, it's a batsman's game everywhere, simple as that. Doing well in WC's is all about peaking at the right time and keeping your players fit. The series in 2009 and the ones before that have about as much relevance to the WC as the 2008 one, which is negligible.

 

[aussie]

Indeed. AUS superb ODI record in India in the last decade counts for nothing in a WC being help in India (for the majority), its all negligible. Since so many other ODI teams have such a good ODI record playing in India in recent times. Its all about peaking at the right time. SMH..

 

[vcs]

Didn't Australia lose 5 or 6 ODI matches on the trot going into the 2007 WC? We all know what happened next...

And India were beaten at home by W. Indies and walloped in NZ before going all the way to the final in 2003.

 

[Flem274*]

India bowling is too crappy to challenge AUS.

Australian batting must suck then.

PAK if they get a full-strenght ODI team with the banned players back

Will simply not happen, and if the banned players are guilty then for the sake of Pakistan cricket they should never play again.

Anyway, as a friendly heads up, this is the second thread in 6 hours I've seen you take off topic (and I've only just hopped on the forum this morning). It's starting to get bloody annoying opening a thread to read what people think on a topic only to have you sprouting your multi quote war crap and people responding to it. I hate sounding like a moderator so just stop being annoying eh?

 

[Trigger_Tiger]

Nice to hear all of that. And I wish you all the best.

By the way. Is cricket the most popular sport in bangladesh?

Until 1997, football was the national sport literally speaking...that is until Bangladesh won the ICC trophy and then cricket did a complete 180 and has sine been the dominant sport in the region!

 

[aussie]

Didn't Australia lose 5 or 6 ODI matches on the trot going into the 2007 WC? We all know what happened next...

And India were beaten at home by W. Indies and walloped in NZ before going all the way to the final in 2003.

Well if you or anyone else ATT, took AUS losing those couple ODIs vs ENG & NZ before the 2007 WC as sign of vulnerability that tournament. They where in for a shock.

The only sure going going into the 2003 WC was that AUS where clear favourites as most people expected them to win. So India peaking & reaching the WC, was the fullfilling pre-series uncertaintly who was likely to be AUS finalist.

 

[four_or_six]

Everyone, this is the Bangladesh-NZ tour thread. If you want to have involved discussions about other teams, you should find/make an appropriate thread to do it in.

 

[aussie]

Will simply not happen, and if the banned players are guilty then for the sake of Pakistan cricket they should never play again.

Well we shall see how the scenario plays out. Since i'm presuming the banned players would only return if they proven not guility. Of course if they return & are guilty that would cripple crickets reputation worldwide.

Anyway, as a friendly heads up, this is the second thread in 6 hours I've seen you take off topic (and I've only just hopped on the forum this morning). It's starting to get bloody annoying opening a thread to read what people think on a topic only to have you sprouting your multi quote war crap and people responding to it. I hate sounding like a moderator so just stop being annoying eh?

Ha.

- Firstly how i have taken this thread off-topic?. I opened this thread & saw a discussion about the PAK WC team & i just entered the discussion. Which is perfectly common on CW throughout the history of this site. No thread every truly stays on topic to its. It inevitably goes off-topic whether the discussion is good or bad. In a tour thread like this where no NZ vs BANG match is currently not going on, this off-topic debate is quite fine. So basically all you are doing is making a set of uesless noise.

- Secondly. What ever makes every "muti-quote" war disccussion crap of mine crap. What is it because you may not agree with what i say at that given time?. Are you saying every multi-quote discussion that i may have with someone is some argument. Why could it not a pleasant cricket discussion?. This is not the first time i have heard some of CW come up with such nonesense againts multiquoting on CW.

Its almost if the general consensus around here these is when you see a multi-quote discussion in a thread = it must be some argument.

Maybe if you actually read the discussion you would learn something. Since this is difference between the current CW & the old one. When i first came on this site with former poster such a Faaipdeoid, Richard, Lukyeddie, A massive zebra, C_C, Tec, Slow Love, Swervy for eg. The where MANY multi-quote wars between them, but when you read posts from them, it was always brilliant cricket discussion. So again you are just making a set of baseless noise.

You are not sounding like a moderator. Rather sounding like man who is sugar coating what he really wants to tell me (most likely negatively). By using lame excuses of how i'm annoying you, by doing things which are extremely common throughout CW history.

 

[four_or_six]

Well we shall see how the scenario plays out. Since i'm presuming the banned players would only return if they proven not guility. Of course if they return & are guilty that would cripple crickets reputation worldwide.



Ha.

- Firstly how i have taken this thread off-topic?. I opened this thread & saw a discussion about the PAK WC team & i just entered the discussion. Which is perfectly common on CW throughout the history of this site. No thread every truly stays on topic to its. It inevitably goes off-topic whether the discussion is good or bad. In a tour thread like this where no NZ vs BANG match is currently not going on, this off-topic debate is quite fine. So basically all you are doing is making a set of uesless noise.

- Secondly. What ever makes every "muti-quote" war disccussion crap of mine crap. What is it because you may not agree with what i say at that given time?. Are you saying every multi-quote discussion that i may have with someone is some argument. Why could it not a pleasant cricket discussion?. This is not the first time i have heard some of CW come up with such nonesense againts multiquoting on CW.

Its almost if the general consensus around here these is when you see a multi-quote discussion in a thread = it must be some argument.

Maybe if you actually read the discussion you would learn something. Since this is difference between the current CW & the old one. When i first came on this site with former poster such a Faaipdeoid, Richard, Lukyeddie, A massive zebra, C_C, Tec, Slow Love, Swervy for eg. The where MANY multi-quote wars between them, but when you read posts from them, it was always brilliant cricket discussion. So again you are just making a set of baseless noise.

You are not sounding like a moderator. Rather sounding like man who is sugar coating what he really wants to tell me (most likely negatively). By using lame excuses of how i'm annoying you, by doing things which are extremely common throughout CW history.

Aussie, posting like this is completely unacceptable. I have just told everyone to keep the thread on topic, and this post certainly isn't about NZ and Bangladesh, and you post directly underneath mine saying that 'off-topic posting is quite fine'.

Also, attacking other posters isn't acceptable in any thread. If you have a problem with a post, it should be reported to moderators so they can make a decision whether it is acceptable or not. It shouldn't be replied to in the thread to just further disrupt cricketing discussion.

 

[aussie]

Aussie, posting like this is completely unacceptable. I have just told everyone to keep the thread on topic, and this post certainly isn't about NZ and Bangladesh, and you post directly underneath mine saying that 'off-topic posting is quite fine'.

Also, attacking other posters isn't acceptable in any thread. If you have a problem with a post, it should be reported to moderators so they can make a decision whether it is acceptable or not. It shouldn't be replied to in the thread to just further disrupt cricketing discussion.

Well when typing out this post, i didn't see your post. If i did i wouldn't have made that post. So my apologies.

Also i dont see how i how i attacked him. I was just stating the facts. But yes i have nothing more to say on this matter.

 

[BeeGee]

If you didn't knee-jerk so hard then maybe would be able to see how Bangladesh at home are better than Zimbabwe and how we're better than both of them. And how the teams record over the last 2 years would certainly indicate this. And how the current Zimbabwe-South Africa tour is being played on roads that have par scores over 300, which certainly does help a team to reach a sizable total.

Yes Zimbabwe should probably win a game or two and might even win the whole thing but FFS NZ lost 3 matches by less than 10 runs, we were hardly thrashed throughout the whole series more just completely outplayed in a single match and then marginally beaten on the other days. It could have easily went either way even with our batting collapsing in a heap.

Yes this is probably the lowest moment in NZ's cricketing history but FFS we haven't suddenly plunged off the ****ing map. Some seriously dire posting over this last day or so making this tour thread pretty much unreadable.

Totally agree.

Sure, NZ haven't played well this series, but it's not the end of NZ cricket. NZ was ranked No.2 in the world just a matter of a few months ago, don't forget. All they need to do is turn around the form of their top order batsmen (the top four collectively averaged only 19.8 in this series) then they'll be right back up the rankings again.

Bangladesh are a team on the rise. The last series NZ played in Bangladesh was also a close series and, with a little luck, Bangladesh could have won the ODI series that time also. This result has more to do with Bangladesh's improvement than it has to do with NZ's weakness.

 

[Jacknife]

I watched the highlights of each of the ODi's and the thing that I noticed is that the Bang team especially after they won the first game, just seem to be a lot more up and enthusiastic than the NZ team and when they got on a roll they seemed to believe more and more and the NZ teams heads started to drop.It's been good for Bang cricket to finally win a series, but from a NZ perspective there is no that much different from this team and the team who were high up in the rankings, a change in location might change the fortunes of the team.

 

[Hurricane]

Just another comment about Bangers improvement is their fielding. They have improved from being the worst to being international ODI standard. If a catch goes in the air I actually expect it to be taken now.

 

[Athlai]

Just another comment about Bangers improvement is their fielding. They have improved from being the worst to being international ODI standard. If a catch goes in the air I actually expect it to be taken now.

Bangladesh have been better than India and Pakistan at fielding since the 07 world cup and have been high standard since about 08.

 

[WindieWeathers]

Not to drag this thread further into the off-topic gutter, but I can't resist getting fired up right here.

Just BRING IT ON! WI turf or BD turf...we have a few guns who can handle the breezy pace pretty well and since WI lacks an express...I don't see why we can't pull off a series win against them !

What you "fired up" about? me stating a fact that your team couldn't handle England's pacers at home? come off it!!, you lot beat a poor NZ side lacking in confidence and suddenly you think "your all that"?

Don't worry Trigger we will "bring it on" early next year when we catch up with your lot in the world cup group stages!!, oh yes you won't be facing our reserves that day!!, then we'll see what your team is made of, in closing i'd say making bold statements like "your turf " is pure fantasy, you'd win one ODI at most probably and in a test series it wouldn't be close.

 

[smash84]

What you "fired up" about? me stating a fact that your team couldn't handle England's pacers at home? come off it!!, you lot beat a poor NZ side lacking in confidence and suddenly you think "your all that"?

Don't worry Trigger we will "bring it on" early next year when we catch up with your lot in the world cup group stages!!, oh yes you won't be facing our reserves that day!!, then we'll see what your team is made of, in closing i'd say making bold statements like "your turf " is pure fantasy, you'd win one ODI at most probably and in a test series it wouldn't be close.

That's harsh........

 

[Hurricane]

fair enough A.

Can't wait for them to play another top 8 team at home.