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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    Adcock has hurt me in the past, gets injured a bit too often.
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    Wish Geelong and Hawthorn was tomorrow. So k33n for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Wish Geelong and Hawthorn was tomorrow. So k33n for it.
    Why you so convinced the Hawks will get up?

    In terms blithering idiots might understand.

    Meanwhile, I'm mildly screwed DT wise this week; missing Cox, Goodes, Grimes & Darling from my starting line up. The returning Riewoldt (N) delivered a below par 80 too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Why you so convinced the Hawks will get up?

    In terms blithering idiots might understand.

    Meanwhile, I'm mildly screwed DT wise this week; missing Cox, Goodes, Grimes & Darling from my starting line up. The returning Riewoldt (N) delivered a below par 80 too.
    Most people will be in the same boat though, everyone will have Cox, Grimes and Darling will be pretty popular as well. I'm missing Cox, Grimes, Sylvia & Tapscott this week. Still hopefull of a decent score, started well with Adcock & Fisher serving me well
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Why you so convinced the Hawks will get up?

    In terms blithering idiots might understand.

    Meanwhile, I'm mildly screwed DT wise this week; missing Cox, Goodes, Grimes & Darling from my starting line up. The returning Riewoldt (N) delivered a below par 80 too.
    Hawthorn always shape up against Geelong (fierce rivalry stemming from the 1989 grand final*) irrespective of their place on the ladder. They match up so well against them, and if there's been one single way to beat Geelong over the past 4 or so years, it's been by pressuring them over the whole ground and watching their handball game break down due to pressure (perceived and actual).

    I don't know if you're familiar with basketball, but if you are, it's akin to a full court press. Every possession has pressure on it and it becomes hard to execute under pressure. Collingwood are the best at this, and Hawthorn are the second best. The hard part is keeping it up over the full 4 quarters, but given Hawthorn's form I reckon they're capable of it.










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    Quote Originally Posted by superkingdave View Post
    Most people will be in the same boat though, everyone will have Cox, Grimes and Darling will be pretty popular as well. I'm missing Cox, Grimes, Sylvia & Tapscott this week. Still hopefull of a decent score, started well with Adcock & Fisher serving me well
    Yeah, fair call. I was torn whether to use some trades to bring in a couple of bankers, but decided to trust my squad & save them for injuries further down the road. Need Vickery to step up for the big fella in my rucks tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superkingdave View Post
    Most people will be in the same boat though, everyone will have Cox

    Yeah....about that......

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Hawthorn always shape up against Geelong (fierce rivalry stemming from the 1989 grand final*) irrespective of their place on the ladder. They match up so well against them, and if there's been one single way to beat Geelong over the past 4 or so years, it's been by pressuring them over the whole ground and watching their handball game break down due to pressure (perceived and actual).

    I don't know if you're familiar with basketball, but if you are, it's akin to a full court press. Every possession has pressure on it and it becomes hard to execute under pressure. Collingwood are the best at this, and Hawthorn are the second best. The hard part is keeping it up over the full 4 quarters, but given Hawthorn's form I reckon they're capable of it.










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    Cheers. Thanks for humouring me.

    I know squat about basketball, but what you describe sounds quite similar to a man-for-man marking system in association football, so think I'm vaguely with you.

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    A press is the opposite to man-for-man setup (if I'm interpreting that correctly). It's more of a moving zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    A press is the opposite to man-for-man setup (if I'm interpreting that correctly). It's more of a moving zone.
    No, Brumby's more or less sort've got it.

    In basketball, a full court press is when a basket is scored and the defence starts in the back court, hasseling the ball carrier, and pressures them up the floor.

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    This is for the midfield and forward line for Hawthorn ftr. I'm aware they play a zone defence most of the time.

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    Yeah exactly, their defence zones but still presses forward. If you go over it, like Adelaide did in Round 1, they are ****ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Yeah exactly, their defence zones but still presses forward. If you go over it, like Adelaide did in Round 1, they are ****ed.
    No, their defence zones, as in plays off their oponent and fills space but the rest of their structure is about putting pressure on the ball carrier, which is a press.

    A zone is playing off an oponent and setting up a structure.

    A press has no structure as such. It's just harass the **** out of the guy with the ball.

    It's hard to go 'over' a zone when a press is in place up the field. If the press is broken, then the zone becomes harder to pull off.

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    Yeah but the point is, as has been shown over the last 2 years, they can't keep up the pressure constantly. All well and good to say you have a game plan to put pressure on your opponents. Only did it properly vs. us this year and the second half vs. Melbourne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Yeah but the point is, as has been shown over the last 2 years, they can't keep up the pressure constantly. All well and good to say you have a game plan to put pressure on your opponents. Only did it properly vs. us this year and the second half vs. Melbourne.
    And they also showed vs Melbourne that when they get it right they only need a half to really dominate an opponent.

    Granted Geelong are better than Melbourne, but I'm pretty sure Hawthorn will be more 'up for it' against Geelong than they were against the Dees.



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