Manchester United bought by an American :)

[Kweek]

he will just do a big money spending and people will be happy again. something like that will happen.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

look man, if you ask any Man U fan their views on this situation all would share my views. If other clubs like chelsea want to have foreigner take over their club fine with them, cause i reckon this take over has helped chelsea's fortuness change dramtically.

United dont need a foreign takeover, especially some american who i am sure has no interest in the clubs wellfare, just mainly about the owing the biggest club in the world

I don't care if other Man U fans share your views. Entire nations share some views and that doesn't make them any more righteous. I can't support that mentality. Why do you keep establishing that he's American in your comments? What assumptions do you have about Americans?

How can you believe he has no interest in the club before he's done anything? That's ridiculous. Poor show.. poor show.

 

[BoyBrumby]

This is bad news .

Now just step back and wait for the Yankee gun culture to seep in.
It wont be long before the manager-throwing-a-shoe-at-the-star-player tradition is replaced by manager-shooting-the-star-player-culture.

Van Nosedive better watch his step then, as the old expression goes:

They shoot horses, don't they?

 

[Scaly piscine]

the fuss is we dont want any damn American to take over our club period

But them taking over our language is fine...

 

[andyc]

what does it matter if he's american? it doesn't mean that he appreciates soccer/football any less than the english

 

[Neil Pickup]

Okay people showing apprehension, the guy is a business man. He will want to make profits from the club. If poor decisions are made and the team loses popularity, Galzer will lose. So it is in his best interests to keep the fans happy.

I dont think he will be stupid to not keep that in mind.

And the fans who have supported Man U over the years will realise eaxctly this and chances of the popularity of Man U ans reducing are next to negligible.

The business man will only try to increase the fan base and it will expand from the already lare numbers and not reduce..

Pratyush in "right-about-football" shocker!

 

[Sanz]

MUFCNOTFORSALE

Those who dont want this american to take over MUFC, please help these fanatics.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Well well well.

Until recently I was disappointed, until I read into his history. He needs us to be successful in order for this to work for him too - and he's no mug either, he clearly plans for success. I forget the name of the NFL team which was pants until he took over and won the superbowl 2 seasons later. Of course there is a risk to this but it isn't all bad.

Of course if Abramovich gets got in Russia for his suspicious gainings of his money, Chelsea are screwed too.

 

[Tom Halsey]

I don't care if other Man U fans share your views. Entire nations share some views and that doesn't make them any more righteous. I can't support that mentality. Why do you keep establishing that he's American in your comments? What assumptions do you have about Americans?

How can you believe he has no interest in the club before he's done anything? That's ridiculous. Poor show.. poor show.

Commercialism, American's having no idea about football (big generalisation but is widely true).

I don't think you should rip into him like that (even if I do partly agree with you that he definately has an interest in the club).

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Commercialism, American's having no idea about football (big generalisation but is widely true).

I don't think you should rip into him like that (even if I do partly agree with you that he definately has an interest in the club).

Commercialism is everywhere now. Real Madrid isn't funded by an American...

Also, the generalization is that "it is widely true". Many Americans know about football and that's largely because of Manchester United. It is undoubtedly the most popular European team in the US. The fact that the US international male team is improving significantly and the female team is so dominant is testament to how big a misconception that is.

Consider this, anyone who says football in Trinidad and Tobago is unpopular or that we have no idea about football is out of his mind, yet the game isn't commercially as popular as in the States. Come on Tom, open your eyes. Whether you like it or not, the US is catching on to yet another sporting discipline and may well dominate it in time.

 

[Pratters]

Pratyush in "right-about-football" shocker!

Well I am pretty new to watching football closely and I am learning

And yes, I would love to have perspectives of people from Spain which would not be easily possible on a cricket forum to form an over all judgement. Here its mostly EPL and English football concentrated.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Just because the Yanks are getting good at it doesn't mean that they're interested in it - they have NFL, baseball, basketball and football will always play behind those, plus Ice Hockey (which I hear is going downhill, but do not know).

 

[BoyBrumby]

There's a lot about Glazer in the English press today, as one might expect.

It is true that the turned an ar$e NFL team into Super Bowl champions, but recently they've had consecutive losing seasons & the ticket prices have still increased markedly.

More interestingly, he also got a new stadium in Tampa by threatening to move the franchise elsewhere unless local politicians agreed to use public money to help pay for it.

Wouldn't that be funny?! With The MK Dons we now have the precedent set, would Glazer attempt to indulge in similar brinkmanship here?

 

[Magrat Garlick]

There's a lot about Glazer in the English press today, as one might expect.

It is true that the turned an ar$e NFL team into Super Bowl champions, but recently they've had consecutive losing seasons & the ticket prices have still increased markedly.

More interestingly, he also got a new stadium in Tampa by threatening to move the franchise elsewhere unless local politicians agreed to use public money to help pay for it.

Wouldn't that be funny?! With The MK Dons we now have the precedent set, would Glazer attempt to indulge in similar brinkmanship here?

Worcester Red Devils v Arsenal, here we come...

 

[Sanz]

I forget the name of the NFL team which was pants until he took over and won the superbowl 2 seasons later. Of course there is a risk to this but it isn't all bad.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers.To be fair, it took him almost 8 years to win the Superbowl after he bought that Club. Your point remains valid though. When he took over the Bucs, they were a laughing stock in NFL, he transformed them into a Champion team.

Btw, here is a untied fan's offer to help 'shareholderunited' (he goes by the nick unitedforever on that forum) :-

"I have a substantial amount of shares in United. As things stand, it makes financial sense to sell at Glazer's bidding price. I am however willing to sell them to Shareholders United if they offer a better price than the current 300p/share.

Are you interested?

I am offering them to Shareholders United first, becuase I am a United Fan through and though. But if I don't get their current market's value, I am afraid I will have to, sadly, sell my shares to the highest bidder, whoever that might be.

United Forever. "

 

[Langeveldt]

To be fair, the timing of this thread reeks of flame bait, aimed at certain people like myself who have been criticized for our views about America.. Anyway, I won't get drawn in again.. Sorry to disappoint you Sanz.

 

[Sanz]

To be fair, the timing of this thread reeks of flame bait, aimed at certain people like myself who have been criticized for our views about America.. Anyway, I won't get drawn in again.. Sorry to disappoint you Sanz.

Lang, you have proved in the past that you dont need flamebait to show your bias towards America. Anyways, to be honest I did expect one of the coterie to come up with that theory but I still opened the thread because my intention certainly wasn't that. Until yesterday, I was ignorant about the issue, and opened this thread to know the views of the english members.

But no, that cant be true, I actually convinced BBC and rest of the media world to publish the story about Glazer and MU yesterday, so that I could instigate the coterie. I am just too influential.

 

[Sanz]

There's a lot about Glazer in the English press today, as one might expect.

It is true that the turned an ar$e NFL team into Super Bowl champions, but recently they've had consecutive losing seasons & the ticket prices have still increased markedly.

More interestingly, he also got a new stadium in Tampa by threatening to move the franchise elsewhere unless local politicians agreed to use public money to help pay for it.

Wouldn't that be funny?! With The MK Dons we now have the precedent set, would Glazer attempt to indulge in similar brinkmanship here?

Tampabay Bucs have performed poorly in last two seasons and that is because after winning the superbowl most of the players have gone to other teams for more money.

Although I dont support using public money for building ballparks (stadiums), His move has really paid off well for Tampa Bay community. Actually it was the Tampa Bay community that voted in favor of the taxes and a new stadium :-

"...Voters turned out in September 1996 in huge numbers, by first primary standards, and approved the Community Investment Tax 53 percent to 47 percent.[ Exit polls showed a majority voted for the tax in spite of the stadium, not because of it; they liked the millions for school construction more... "

Although one has to agree that Glazer didn't pay a single penny to build the stadium and keeps all the money he gets out of it. But hey he was the one who risked his 192 millions for a lousy team and made them superbowl champs in 8 years, brought superbowl to Tampa in 2001. I dont think citizens of Tampa Bay have any complains.

 

[Langeveldt]

Lang, you have proved in the past that you dont need flamebait to show your bias towards America. Anyways, to be honest I did expect one of the coterie to come up with that theory but I still opened the thread because my intention certainly wasn't that. Until yesterday, I was ignorant about the issue, and opened this thread to know the views of the english members.

But no, that cant be true, I actually convinced BBC and rest of the media world to publish the story about Glazer and MU yesterday, so that I could instigate the coterie. I am just too influential.

Fair enough..

1) I wouldn't have a problem with an American taking over my club (although its a rubbish example), if he had an ounce of passion and knowledge for the game..

2) You're obsession with this "coterie" of ours is a little weird .. I certainly don't stick up for someone just because I like them or they have loads of posts. Im pretty sure I have had a go at Casson when he has stepped out of line, just like I would anyone else... If they unfairly stick up for me, then I guess thats their problem, not ours..

 

[Sanz]

Fair enough..

1) I wouldn't have a problem with an American taking over my club (although its a rubbish example), if he had an ounce of passion and knowledge for the game..

2) You're obsession with this "coterie" of ours is a little weird .. I certainly don't stick up for someone just because I like them or they have loads of posts. Im pretty sure I have had a go at Casson when he has stepped out of line, just like I would anyone else... If they unfairly stick up for me, then I guess thats their problem, not ours..

Do you always refer yourself as 'ours' . I hope the 'ours' doesn't refer to the coterie but just you.

As for Glazer's knowledge and passion of soccer, I can tell you that when he took over Bucs, he knew zilch about NFL and American football. His only passion seems to be money.