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    From Rabble to Glory - Players and Teams that started off crap but got much better

    This is a chance to post your nominees for players who had less than auspicious starts to their careers. Those that looked like total bludgers, but then get much much better.

    The obvious is SK Warne being flogged around Australia by the touring BCCI team. But he was already having some early success in Sri Lanka before destroying the West Indies at Melbourne in 1992, and by 1993 was a superstar before even heading to England. So I am sure the bright minds at CW can come up with much better suggestions.

    I'll kick things off with Neil Wagner, long awaited by NZC fans as he qualified from South Africa and terrorised first-class batsmen, even taking 4 wickets in a single over, and expected to be the best thing since Bond or Hadlee, Neil failed to deliver in his first two years of international cricket. 8 tests and he was dropped, with a bowling average well over 40.

    NZC fans had given up on the "Wagner will be great" dream.

    But since his recall as #3 bowler instead of the new ball spearhead, hasn't he turned his career around?

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    As a side note, feel free to discuss teams, such as the mid 80's Australian battlers of Border, Marsh, Boon, Jones, SWaugh who at some point went from a low ebb, to much loftier heights.
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    Suranga Lakmal

    Began absolutely dire, well below test standard. Has become SL's most consistent and reliable fast bowler since Vaas, although obviously still without that level of class. Able to play the holding role in tough conditions, but can make early breakthroughs and get the ball moving around over long spells in favourable conditions.

    Not to mention as of now he is SL's test captain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximas View Post
    Suranga Lakmal

    Began absolutely dire, well below test standard. Has become SL's most consistent and reliable fast bowler since Vaas, although obviously still without that level of class. Able to play the holding role in tough conditions, but can make early breakthroughs and get the ball moving around over long spells in favourable conditions.

    Not to mention as of now he is SL's test captain
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    He averaged 43 over 10 tests last year. 35 the year before, and 56 the year before that.

    He is having a great 2018 so far, though. Hope it continues for him until he plays NZC next.

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    I think when you go back to about the UAE series against Pakistan in early 2014 he has averaged a tick under 40 since then, it's all relative, the point is not how good he's become, but how much better than when he began

    EDIT: just checked, averaged 36 from the beginning of 2014, back in 2012 his average was like 65 keep in mind

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    Merv Hughes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximas View Post
    I think when you go back to about the UAE series against Pakistan in early 2014 he has averaged a tick under 40 since then, it's all relative, the point is not how good he's become, but how much better than when he began
    Are you a Sri Lankan fan? If so - what happened to this guy?

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    Chameera had fair pace (around 140+ all day) and a good bumper.
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    I am indeed (although I'm Australian), Chameera has broken down numerous times with injury in the last couple of years, he was actually meant to play IPL this year. I assume he'll be in the reckoning for SL's overseas tours over the next few years however

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximas View Post
    I am indeed (although I'm Australian), Chameera has broken down numerous times with injury in the last couple of years, he was actually meant to play IPL this year. I assume he'll be in the reckoning for SL's overseas tours over the next few years however
    Yeah, he was really impressive in NZ, NZ set SL up with a bouncy track (got a lil variable iirc); but out of nowhere Chameera decided he could keep bowling vicious low bouncers from back of a length or mid-way - not 'short "short'" and really got SL into a winning position.

    His pace was already known I believe, but not his short assault ability.

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    One of the best bowling efforts seen in NZ in recent times. Incl NZ and visiting players. It was that good.
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    Man SL have blown some good opportunities in NZ over the last couple of tours

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    VVS Laxman: persistence pays off

    Following in the footsteps of Gavaskar, Vengasarkar, and playing with Azra, Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly, and helping to keep Kambli out of the team was no mean feat for VVS.

    And while he is not an ATG himself, his career in held in very high regard as a classy and beautiful strokemaker who has played some of the most famous innings, particularly 2 in one game that turned a hopeless position against the best team in the world into one of the most famous test victories, ever.

    But his first years in the side were awful.

    16 matches, 28 innings, average 24.07 with no centuries.

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    He seems to have almost been lucky to have been selected for so long.
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    Already pretty well known, but it took Steve Waugh a fair while to establish himself at test level. Didn't look back once he did though.
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    He kind of did though. Was dropped in 1990-91 and didnít re-establish himself til 92-93.
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    Ramnaresh Sarwan in his first year of test cricket toured Australia and scored 3 runs in 5 innings before a gritty 50 in Sydney probably saved him from the scrap heap.

    Went on to have a decent career and scored a couple of tons against Australia in later series
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