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    Why McGrath over Hadlee?
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    Dale Steyn. Every series there was an impactful spell which turned the test or the series in SAs favour. Ridiculous SR in the most batsmen friendly era. KP of the bowling but more consistent

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    Need more Hadlee in this thread.
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    All this discussion makes me just sad that I never got see Marshall live on TV. To me it's difficult to imagine someone to be as good as or even better than Mcgrath.


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    Hadlee is certainly a contender for second best along with the likes of Ambrose, McGrath and Steyn.

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    I still SMH when I look at the 2005 Ashes scorecards, and look at the second test (Eng won by 2 runs) and the fourth test (Eng won by 3 wickets).

    Guess who missed those 2 games thru injury?

    If McGrath'd stayed fit, the 2005 Ashes would have (in all seriousness) been most likely a 3-0 result to Australia.

    I don't even say this to troll English posters (that much). It's just literally how good McGrath was. When we had to function with an attack of Lee/a fading Dizzy/Kaspa and Tait, we suddenly became very vulnerable.
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    "The Demon" Spofforth

    It's not about how fast you are, it's how good !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adders View Post
    Ditto Jimmy Anderson.
    No Adders. He can't be in this discussion when he is struggling to get into a fully fit current SA team.

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    1.Marshall
    2.Akram
    3.Ambrose
    4.Mcgrath

    In that order.
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    Commentators i like -Atherton,boycott,chappell,greig,holding.Can't tolerate - Shivaramakrishnan,Lal,morrison,AK Anthony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    Only miserable old farts would consider Marshall and Trueman to be anywhere near as good as McGrath or Steyn. Equally good statistics in a way friendlier era for batsmen.
    Marshall has McGrath's average + Steyn's SR (well, close enough) and great WPM while bowling alongside many ATGs. Statistically, he stands out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by subshakerz View Post
    Why McGrath over Hadlee?

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    Need more Hadlee in this thread.
    Logged in specifically to make this point, even If I do have Hadlee 2nd to Marshall, followed by Ambrose and Steyn & the McGrath to make up my top 5.

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    Sharing wickets with Warne and vice versa may have something to do with why Hadlee and Murali's stats respectively are so inflated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subshakerz View Post
    Why McGrath over Hadlee?
    Bowled to better batsmen
    Played on flatter wickets
    Slightly better numbers
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    In my books, taking into consideration their records, impact on the game, expert opinion and their aura, the top tier of fast bowlers would consist of, in no particular order, Lillee, Trueman, Hadlee, Marshall, McGrath, Imran, Akram, Steyn, Ambrose, Barnes

    And the next would consist of Donald, Waqar, Lindwall, Spofforth, Roberts, Holding, Davidson, Garner, Larwood, Botham

    The third tier would have S. Pollock, Walsh, Anderson, M.Johnson, Fazal, Bedser, Miller, Snow, Hall, P. Pollock

    To bring up the top 40 let's have Kapil, Vaas, Bishop, Akhthar, Croft, Harris, Thompson, Adcock, Willis, Statham in the fourth tier

    S. Broad, Gough, Tate, Bond, Ntini, McDermott, Caddick, Hughes, Reid, Tyson would round off the top 50.

    anyone from the top 10 could be the greatest.

    Lillee and Ambrose didn't play in India. Hadlee and Lillee didn't do well in Pakistan. Barnes and McGrath were not "fast". Akram has a patchy record in England, one of the most important countries where your greatness is truly tested. Steyn has a high economy rate. Trueman and Imran's home vs away record is slightly uneven. Considering such non issues, we can conclude that Marshall could be the primus inter pares. He has an outstanding all round record against all countries, in all countries. Despite other ATGs in the team, he took bucketloads of wickets and five fers over a long career. He was a match winner. He was fast and accurate and he was box office. It should be him.

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    Glenn McGrath doesn't belong in this discussion. His supreme power is such that he doesn't need to breathe.

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