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    Clarke in the Aussie batting pantheon

    So I just realised that Clarke has 27 hundreds. Found that pretty amazing, thought he was closer to that 20-22 hundred mark. With so many runs behind him, where does he rank among the Aussie all time stakes? He's done the business all over the world, has lots of hundreds in really tough conditions and carried the lineup singlehandedly for almost 2 years when he took over the captaincy. He's probably past his best now and there might not be too much time left for him with his back. Personally think he's up there with the likes of Border already.
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    Think he'll finish his career as the second-best after Punter, at least in terms of who I've seen.
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    Clarke is certainly like Border in that he has been the senior batsman in a team of novices.

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    Has been consistently good against all opponents and has excelled against the outstanding SA attack of modern times. Pretty much averages 40 or more against all comers (apart from 2 tests v Bang) and in all countries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Riggins View Post
    Think he'll finish his career as the second-best after Punter in terms of who I've seen.
    Sits comfortably with Border, SWaugh and Ponting in terms of Aus batsmen I've seen.

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    Hopefully the emergence of Warner and Smitty as genuine test-quality batsmen will reduce a bit of the burden on him and he can manage to stick around in some capacity for 3 more years or so. Another 6 months of Australia sucking after the '13 Ashes and I reckon he would have pulled the pin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Sits comfortably with Border, SWaugh and Ponting in terms of Aus batsmen I've seen.
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    Geez, tough to say as he is a guy with his body who could really end up going backwards all of a sudden, or play till he's 38 and have the best record.

    If he finished now, he'd be behind Border/Waugh/Ponting for mine.
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    Mark Nicholas has ruined the word 'pantheon' forever IMO.
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    He's gotta be right up there -- such a good player. Tough knocks against fast bowling where he's fought his way through in a fashion comparable to Waugh, shouldering the burden of an entire batting line-up like Border, making lazily elegant tons in the vein of Chappell, and a dominance over quality spin bowling that Punter could only dream of.

    I consider him somewhat similar to PEWS's analysis of Chris Woakes, actually (only at a higher skill level) -- he's got the tools in every single department of batsmanship, and is great at them all, but isn't quite ATG at any single one of them, as the men mentioned above obviously were.

    I get the feeling he'll be remembered not dissimilarly to Neil Harvey, only with less of the "better back in my day" rubbish -- that third 'tier' of batsmanship -- when he really should be up there with the "Best Since Bradman" group.
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    Think Neil Harvey is a really good comparison to be honest. Had their start in great teams, and was the one great batsmen left over in the ongoing decade. Both renowned as great players of spin too.
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    I don't get the Hayden love tbh. Terrific player (I wrote the definitive tribute piece on his retirement after all) but I don't know that he quite belongs in this company.

    I don't really recall him playing top class fast bowling in difficult conditions as well as some of the others in Bagapath's list. Certainly a bruising, domineering player at his best though. He often set the tone for that Australian side with the way he went about it.
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    Dan smartly paying Clarke the highest compliment he can by linking him to Chris Woakes.
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