1) Ross is the Boss.
2) See point 1.
Overrated XI M Bracewell, Burns, Rahane, Don Voges, Bairstow, Alecz Day, Donovan Grobelaar, Luke Ronchi, Faulkner, Dan Christian, Permaul
That 2009 side was basically the peak of Indian Test cricket in history. Indian fans can definitely be optimistic about the current lot and their potential to eclipse that but they've got a lot to prove before they get there.
Rejecting 'analysis by checklist' and 'skill absolutism' since Dec '09
Rejecting 'selection deontology' since Mar '15
'Stats' is not a synonym for 'Career Test Averages'
Originally Posted by Jeffrey Tucker
Haha, I think this might be a stalemate because I don't see many of the Indian posters daring to believe, and I can understand that. When India went to SA though I was expecting a bloodbath because with the greatest respect to the previous generation, if you put them in certain situations they tended to fall to pieces. Especially blokes not called Dravid and Tendulkar (though they had their moments). They were excellent players but there were chinks in the armour. When I watched how well Vijay, Pujara and Kohli left the ball (I didn't get to watch much of Sharma or Rahane sadly because I had to come home to stone age internet halfway through the first test) and applied themselves I was surprised and impressed. This lot are definitely more aware of how to succeed overseas than their forebears, and it's more impressive when you consider history tells us the first tour to South Africa or a similarly nasty country can be messy for young Indian batsmen.
When you couple that with the bowling attack which is just genuinely good and much better than the 2009 side with the exception of Ishant then India are well placed to be better overseas than perhaps they have ever been.
Just statin' the facts brah.
Nah as impressive as it's been from Vijay, Gambhir at that point in his career was an absolute monster. He left the ball exceptionally well and was a more natural leaver than Vijay, it didn't look forced at all. No bowler in the world knew how to get him out.
Last edited by Jono; 31-12-2013 at 08:13 PM.
"I am very happy and it will allow me to have lot more rice."
Eoin Morgan on being given a rice cooker for being Man of the Match in a Dhaka Premier Division game.
Sorry, should have clarified: When I talk about the previous generation I meant 2000-2010, which includes Ganguly etc. There were tours where their techniques went missing.
Yeah, there are definitely promising signs from this current side, especially given the ages of the batsmen. There's plenty to get excited about and there' no doubt about that.
But the side that toured New Zealand in 2009 was India's greatest ever Test side and had accomplished far, far more. It was a seriously good side, especially if you're primarily talking about the overseas techniques of the batsmen (as you are). You want to talk about showing fight in South Africa; they won a Test there and drew the series.
Obviously what people want and what we will get will most likely be different. What do people think the actual test squad for NZ will be?
New Zealand should win the test series. Definitely cannot see them losing on their grounds. ODIs will be tough.
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