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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy View Post
    Not really qualified to disseminate on their technical skills, but it's telling that McGrath seems to make more ATG World XIs on this forum than Curtly.
    True, Ambrose was a true champion, but just below McGrath. Same ball park though. Never though we were out of a match when Amby had the new cherry in his hand and I think he was the No. 1 rated bolwer in the world up until when he retired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy View Post
    Not really qualified to disseminate on their technical skills, but it's telling that McGrath seems to make more ATG World XIs on this forum than Curtly.
    Yeah and what's interesting is that Ambrose seems to win most of the polls between the two. We have a situation where a (small) majority of CW seems to think Ambrose was the better of the two, but the McGrath faction rate their own man higher than the Ambrose faction.

    I'm a good example I guess in that I think Ambrose was the better of the two but wouldn't have either of them in genuine contention for my ATWXI.
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    Such similar bowlers. Ambrose just had a touch more intimidation I think. Depends on what you want from your bowler. In my mind I think McGrath was more accurate. But Ambrose could be as well. Such a tough choice. I'll just take Marshall then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post

    I'm a good example I guess in that I think Ambrose was the better of the two but wouldn't have either of them in genuine contention for my ATWXI.
    Isn't that because of your all rounder fetish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    I'm a good example I guess in that I think Ambrose was the better of the two but wouldn't have either of them in genuine contention for my ATWXI.
    That describes me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    Isn't that because of your all rounder fetish?
    Nah not really; I don't think either of them are amongst the best four bowlers of all time.

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    It seems a harsh call at first to say they're not amongst top 4. I don't think they're far behind. who's your top 4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schearzie View Post
    It seems a harsh call at first to say they're not amongst top 4. I don't think they're far behind. who's your top 4?
    Frankly just like the batsmen, there's virtually nothing to choose between any of the 15 greatest fast bowlers... Wouldn't be harsh to leave anyone out if the top 4, because an equally good bowler is taking his place
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    Quote Originally Posted by schearzie View Post
    It seems a harsh call at first to say they're not amongst top 4. I don't think they're far behind. who's your top 4?
    Speaking for myself, it will be Murali, Marshall, Barnes and Hadlee

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    Speaking for myself, it will be Murali, Marshall, Barnes and Hadlee
    Yeah they'd be more four too, not necessarily in that order. I'd always pick Imran as one of my bowlers in my ATWXI due to the aforementioned "allrounder fetish" but those four are IMO the best four Test bowlers of all time, with O'Reilly probably fifth. Ambrose is probably next up.

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    imo McGrath is the best specialist bowler of all time but he doesn't make my all time eleven.

    if you think pews has an allrounder fetish then im the guy with the hushed up addiction
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    McGrath - but by a margin so small it can only be displayed using complex algebra
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    1. Gooch 2. Dravid 3. Ponting 4. Tendulkar 5. Lara 6. Kallis 7. Gilchrist 8. Akram 9. Warne 10. Ambrose 11. McGrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Yeah they'd be more four too, not necessarily in that order. I'd always pick Imran as one of my bowlers in my ATWXI due to the aforementioned "allrounder fetish" but those four are IMO the best four Test bowlers of all time, with O'Reilly probably fifth. Ambrose is probably next up.
    That really doesn't make too much sense as Hadlee-Marshall-Barnes-Murali is obviously plenty strong enough as far as batting is concerned. Not only does the team bat down to 9 (Marshall was perfectly competent with the bat) but it also has the 4 best/strongest bowlers in history - which is a desirable priority.
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    They're not the four best bowlers by much if at all though, and some other **** might pick a team who can bat to 11.

    Imran
    Hadlee
    Marshall
    Warne

    Is my 8-11, but I'm not sold the above are the four best bowlers in history. Bats deep though.

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