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    He's done well but there will always be an * against those runs because of the "Score runs in the top four or you're just another Munro" meme.

    And Neil Broom plays in the top four, sometimes too high in the top four...
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    Actually forgot about Latham. Can cover the whole top 6 (and ANOTHER unneeded back up keeper)

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    If I was a Bangladesh fan, this would be the series I'd have been waiting eagerly for since 2010 when Bangladesh beat NZ 4-0 in the ODIs. Pencilled in late 2013 at home as just possibly the country's first test series victory over top-8 opposition.

    I realise Bangladesh cricket hasn't exactly made great strides forward since 2010 (though I haven't watched enough to know just how good their current team is or isn't) but I'm surprised at the apparent lack of interest from fans and that the TV rights haven't sold. This has the potential to be a milestone series for Bangladesh. Even if they're in a poor way, NZ still struggle to play spin and will always give Bangladesh a chance through our batting frailty.


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    As for NZ, we need to look to the Sri Lanka series for inspiration (not the infighting part; the other part). Taylor, McCullum and Williamson have done ok in the subcontinent and so has Vettori with the bat, if he plays. Watling, Rutherford, Brownlie (if selected) et al should view this as a chance to remedy existing deficiencies against spin bowling.

    Our bowlers will do the best they can with the conditions but if the pitches completely nullify seam bowling then we may be reliant on Bangladesh giving their wickets away.

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    And just as we have another subcontinent tour coming up, that man Jeets takes more wickets in County Div 1 and is now the 4th highest wicket-taker in the comp. This feels somehow familiar.

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    Haha yeah doesn't this happen annually?

    He should probably be asked to achieve a season sub-25 average in English cricket and to dominate NZ domestix (something he's never done iirc) to get another look in. 46 @ 28 is one of those things where on face value it looks like he bowled decently without being outstanding. We haven't seen a single ball though.

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    Dear Tastle,

    When are you leaving your Scottish and Essex clubs to come into Div 1 and average high 20s with bat and ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Haha yeah doesn't this happen annually?

    He should probably be asked to achieve a season sub-25 average in English cricket and to dominate NZ domestix (something he's never done iirc) to get another look in. 46 @ 28 is one of those things where on face value it looks like he bowled decently without being outstanding. We haven't seen a single ball though.
    To give him his dues, he's been the best spinner in the first division of the CC by miles. It's also funny to see him doing so well with the bat given that his gutless displays v SA probably played a larger part in his axing than his bowling did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    To give him his dues, he's been the best spinner in the first division of the CC by miles. It's also funny to see him doing so well with the bat given that his gutless displays v SA probably played a larger part in his axing than his bowling did.
    I always found that a bit harsh, he had a game plan to score runs which was to back away, something Vettori has done for years, if McHesson had an issue with it during the series they should have said something, he still managed to score more runs in that series than Doug "looks good in the nets" Bracewell.
    If he was ever going to play again though surely it was going to be in leeds (rather than play 4 seamers on a dry deck), but he has just really fallen out of favour - partially because they think Williamson is a good enough spinner.
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    it was also about the drinking incident in queens town after an England XI tour game.

    Agree that he's been treated harshly. The team was bowled out for 47 ffs. Methinks they found an escape goat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RxGM View Post
    I always found that a bit harsh, he had a game plan to score runs which was to back away, something Vettori has done for years, if McHesson had an issue with it during the series they should have said something, he still managed to score more runs in that series than Doug "looks good in the nets" Bracewell.
    If he was ever going to play again though surely it was going to be in leeds (rather than play 4 seamers on a dry deck), but he has just really fallen out of favour - partially because they think Williamson is a good enough spinner.
    Yeah, so did I. At the end of the day, he did no worse with the bat than Chris Martin has done for years and he's not going to have to deal with a bowling attack that good any time soon (I don't think our next series v SA is until about 2016). He was fine in India, and bowled well without being properly rewarded in SL. It was only in SA were he got whacked around, and in that respect he was no different to the rest of the bowling attack (or, for that matter, Vettori on his past tours of the dark continent). Having said that I was for his axing for the series v England as he seemed like a real mess for a while after his mum died (understandably). Still reckon that he's probably a better option than Bartin, but agree that McHesson have probably blacklisted him.
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    Bowlers with FC averages north of 40 can't complain about harsh treatment.

    If he had never played any international cricket he may well have been dropped by Wellington by now. Luke Woodcock can average 40 with the ball and is a much better batsman.

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    Luke Woodcock is a poor man's Nathan McCullum.

    And that's saying something.

    Seriously though, are we surprised that an older spinner has found ways to get in the wickets? Seems to happen all the time. Jeets always had a nice action and used to get reasonable amounts of turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Bowlers with FC averages north of 40 can't complain about harsh treatment.

    If he had never played any international cricket he may well have been dropped by Wellington by now. Luke Woodcock can average 40 with the ball and is a much better batsman.
    Seriously? Woodcock averages 1 wicket per match. And what kind of competition would Patel have for his place? Even the spin bowling "stars" of the PS like Bruce Martin are only averaging about 36. New Zealand isn't exactly flush with spinners who can average under 40. I take your central point that Patel has never produced the results needed to secure a spot in the New Zealand team, but let's not take things too far.

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