***Official*** New Zealand in England series 2013

[Flem274*]

So predictions for NZ innings?

170 a/o

It's gonna be 150 or 250 imo

praying for no disasters like SA

 

[flibbertyjibber]

If England bowl really well and knock over a pretty mediocre batting lineup cheaply, I don't think it really makes their batting here any less bad. Southee and Boult are quality bowlers and they've bowled really well but England have definitely batted poorly, and that fact won't wash away no matter what happens for the rest of the match.

The outfield hasn't helped though. Look at that full drive by Anderson pulling up well short of the rope. Can anyone think of a slower outfield at headquarters? On a normal Lord's match England would have got 300+ and nobody would really be moaning much.

 

[Maximas]

Depends a lot on Rutherford I'd say, if he gets going the bowlers will drop their heads and Fulton/Williamson and play second fiddle and build a big score. Looks like batting won't be that difficult for the first 10 overs either.

 

[Spark]

It's gonna be 150 or 250 imo

praying for no disasters like SA

South Africa do have a special knack for that sort of thing, though.

 

[Prince EWS]

The outfield hasn't helped though. Look at that full drive by Anderson pulling up well short of the rope. Can anyone think of a slower outfield at headquarters? On a normal Lord's match England would have got 300+ and nobody would really be moaning much.

The outfield is slow but I don't think it's 70 runs out of 300 slow.

I don't expect New Zealand to score many runs but that doesn't mean England's batting wasn't poor.

 

[Uppercut]

I think it's time to lay New Zealand now. Backed them at 14s and they're into 4s.

I'm sticking with them for now. Mostly because the money I put on at 14s isn't worth hedging at that price.

 

[Flem274*]

dammit

 

[Spark]

Well here we go

 

[flibbertyjibber]

This could be fun, 299

 

[Expressway76]

Not this time Rutherford.

 

[Uppercut]

Rutherford gone already, looks like you timed the hedge to perfection.

 

[Adders]

Ohhhhhh Jimmy Jimmy,
Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy Anderson!!!

 

[Blakey]

At least his strike rate is positive thought. Right?

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Yeah our batsmen can't play that ****

 

[Prince EWS]

I'm sticking with them for now. Mostly because the money I put on at 14s isn't worth hedging at that price.

I just reckon New Zealand are going to get rolled here tbh. The first couple of wickets at least, anyway. They're not going to be 4s again for quite a while if at all in this game.

 

[Uppercut]

The outfield is slow but I don't think it's 70 runs out of 300 slow.

I don't expect New Zealand to score many runs but that doesn't mean England's batting wasn't poor.

I do agree but I think we'll get a good idea of whether their go-slow was justified as a strategy or not. At least some of this Kiwi lineup will be trying to force the pace.

 

[Expressway76]

Yeah, I'm reassessing our batting already. I doubt NZ will get within 50 of it.

 

[Maximas]

Don't jump to conclusions people!! Brownlie, McCullum and Watling all in decent nick with Taylor always a class act at number 4. I'd still back NZ to at least chase England down here.

 

[Uppercut]

I just reckon New Zealand are going to get rolled here tbh. The first couple of wickets at least, anyway. They're not going to be 4s again for quite a while if at all in this game.

Yeah it definitely looks that way at the moment.

Broad and Anderson are both clocking 85+ and getting good carry; could be that it wasn't the pitch that was slow. Although that said Lord's does have a funny habit of quickening on day two.

 

[Prince EWS]

I do agree but I think we'll get a good idea of whether their go-slow was justified as a strategy or not. At least some of this Kiwi lineup will be trying to force the pace.

I didn't really mind the go-slow that much. I thought they let Wagner get away with a bit too much rubbish but Martin only ever looked a threat when batsmen were attacking him and, with a four man attack, waiting for the bowlers to tire when they were bowling as well as Southee and Boult seemed a sound strategy. They definitely could have put more pressure on Wagner at times though and in the end the problem I had with the batting was poor execution rather than lack of intent. They just didn't do what they set out to do very well at all.