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[kykweer.proteas]

Originally Posted by sonnench

My favorite thing about Steyn is, for no reason what so ever, he will start bowling like an absolute demon, like something no one else was ever aware of, was pissing him off.

What amazes me is that just the other day people made a big deal over his 300th wicket and he is already a quarter of the way to 400.

Damn Sri Lanka wish we could see how steyn does there. the final frontier for our test side.

[Mike5181]

Originally Posted by kykweer.proteas

What amazes me is that just the other day people made a big deal over his 300th wicket and he is already a quarter of the way to 400.

Damn Sri Lanka wish we could see how steyn does there. the final frontier for our test side.

He's getting through the wickets amazingly fast. How many do we think he can get? He's currently 29, and he seems to manage himself pretty well. I'd say he's a pretty good chance of passing McGrath's 563, or at least getting close.

[Spark]

Hmm, I dunno. Have to remember Steyn's big disadvantage in the statistical aggregate races - SA simply don't play enough Tests.

[kykweer.proteas]

Its hard to compare Steyn to Mcgrath who played in Aus's hayday, playing and dominating England often, playing much more test matches.

but quickly Mcgrath 563 wickets @ 21.6 strike rate of 52

Steyn 323 wickets @ 22.67 strike rate of 41

Mcgrath bowled 29 248 balls if Steyn ever bowled that many balls at his current rate he'll take 713 wickets

Improbable and unlikely though haha

[ganeshran]

Originally Posted by kykweer.proteas

Its hard to compare Steyn to Mcgrath who played in Aus's hayday, playing and dominating England often, playing much more test matches.

but quickly Mcgrath 563 wickets @ 21.6 strike rate of 52

Steyn 323 wickets @ 22.67 strike rate of 41

Mcgrath bowled 29 248 balls if Steyn ever bowled that many balls at his current rate he'll take 713 wickets

Improbable and unlikely though haha

McGrath has performed better than Steyn for a longer period, so I would rate him better . However, if Steyn continues his current form till the end of his career, he would be at par if not better than the pigeon.

One thing working in Steyn's favour is how much better he is than his contemporaries. The next best is Anderson while Mc Grath had to contend with Ambrose, Walsh, Akram as his contemporaries.

[marc71178]

Another thing that I feel tends to get ignored in this sort of situation is that playing fewer games can benefit a player as they avoid injuries, get proper rest time and can go at full pelt more often during games as they know they don't have as big a workload.

[smalishah84]

Originally Posted by marc71178

Another thing that I feel tends to get ignored in this sort of situation is that playing fewer games can benefit a player as they avoid injuries, get proper rest time and can go at full pelt more often during games as they know they don't have as big a workload.

Clearly this strategy isn't working out with the Aussie bowlers

[marc71178]

Originally Posted by smalishah84

Clearly this strategy isn't working out with the Aussie bowlers

McGrath's heavier workload years had higher averages (admittedly they were mid 21s but that's still worse than the 18s he churned out when he had fewer Tests to play) - in fact the 4 years he bowled the most were his worst averaging years throughout his peak.

[Cabinet96]

Originally Posted by Spark

Hmm, I dunno. Have to remember Steyn's big disadvantage in the statistical aggregate races - SA simply don't play enough Tests.

Yup. After the Pakistan series when do South Africa next play tests? I know India are supposed to be coming later in the year, but are they playing any other tests in the year?

[smalishah84]

south aferica play india next

[Satyanash89]

Yeah South Africa's test schedule is extremely barren this year.
And that tour by India is not going to be pretty. Our batting looks ****e honestly, almost as ****e as NZ, Pak. I cant really see anyone doing well there. Its all on Kohli and Pujara really but Pujara looked all at sea against Steyn when we toured a couple of years ago and i just feel now that Kohli's amazing purple patch is done, he'll struggle.

Plus, the stas-whore in me hopes Sachin retires before that tour to preserve his pristine 40+ average in every country vs every country

[kykweer.proteas]

Originally Posted by Satyanash89

Yeah South Africa's test schedule is extremely barren this year.
And that tour by India is not going to be pretty. Our batting looks ****e honestly, almost as ****e as NZ, Pak. I cant really see anyone doing well there. Its all on Kohli and Pujara really but Pujara looked all at sea against Steyn when we toured a couple of years ago and i just feel now that Kohli's amazing purple patch is done, he'll struggle.

Plus, the stas-whore in me hopes Sachin retires before that tour to preserve his pristine 40+ average in every country vs every country

We were supposed to play in sri lanka

[Agent Nationaux]

RSA is visiting us for a Test series in UAE this summer.

How would people rate the bowling between the two teams. For me it would be:

Steyn
Philander

Daylight

Morkel
Junaid (potential to get a lot better though)
Kallis
Gul

I am going to ignore the rookie Rahat since it was his debut.

[kykweer.proteas]

Oh yes south africa go to UAE to play Pakistan before we host India, still enough cricket to come this year

[smalishah84]

the revenge series in UAE