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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    If that's true then how come almost every single Test day takes 6 and a half hours to complete even when spinners are used?
    Minimum requirement is 90 overs a day. Nothing to do with time stumps is scheduled.

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    No, the regulations are for 6 hours play in which 90 overs should be bowled. There is a half hour provision for time to complete the overs but if they're not completed by then the overs are lost forever. Since almost every day now lasts the 6 and a half hours and frequently the 90 are still not bowled even when spinners are used, please tell me how 4 quicks "can easily" manage to bowl the 90 overs in 6 hours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    No, the regulations are for 6 hours play in which 90 overs should be bowled. There is a half hour provision for time to complete the overs but if they're not completed by then the overs are lost forever. Since almost every day now lasts the 6 and a half hours and frequently the 90 are still not bowled even when spinners are used, please tell me how 4 quicks "can easily" manage to bowl the 90 overs in 6 hours?
    Which law with which statues of what year states that 90 overs must be completed within 6 hours?

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    Don't know about whether It's in 6hrs, but don't first class games world over get through up to as many as 105 overs a day as a matter of course?
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    90 overs is the minimum but in fact over rates gets calculated at the end of the match by the umpires after they take into consideration the fall of wickets, innings changes, drinks, injuries, referrals to 3 rd umpire and othrr things. Then they will get a total that should have been bowed. Every wicket is 2 min. 4 wickets fall on the day you will already have 2 overs lost and so on and so on. They will only fine teams for having slow rates for 4 days on the trott. Also you will note most sides getting fined are sub continent teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    No, the regulations are for 6 hours play in which 90 overs should be bowled. There is a half hour provision for time to complete the overs but if they're not completed by then the overs are lost forever. Since almost every day now lasts the 6 and a half hours and frequently the 90 are still not bowled even when spinners are used, please tell me how 4 quicks "can easily" manage to bowl the 90 overs in 6 hours?
    Its just laziness. You can easily bowl 90 overs in six hours.
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    4 day games is exactly the same laws except the total is 96 overs and 80 on last day instead of 90 and 75 like in test matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spooony View Post
    4 day games is exactly the same laws except the total is 96 overs and 80 on last day instead of 90 and 75 like in test matches.
    80 on the last day and 75 in Tests is to do with the law stating there must be 15 overs bowled in the last hour, irrespective of scheduled overs in a day (or that's my interpretation, at least).

    The over rate should be 15 per hour. Playing 4 quicks has, since the Windies in the 1980s, dropped that level to around 12. Funnily enough, when you have 4 guys bowling of 30m runs, they don't get through 90 overs as fast as Joe Offie bowling off two steps.

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    That said, slow over rates are the primary reason many people find cricket boring. Captains should be mercilessly hunted down and suspended if they fail to fit 90 overs in by 6pm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spooony View Post
    Which law with which statues of what year states that 90 overs must be completed within 6 hours?
    Please tell me you're joking?!

    The ICC regulations for Test Matches.

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    The Australian selectors aren't even trying anymore. Can't remember too many worse Australian 'A' sides than the one selected for South Africa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Wright View Post
    The Australian selectors aren't even trying anymore. Can't remember too many worse Australian 'A' sides than the one selected for South Africa.
    Unless it is of course a plan not to give them a real game and try and hope they are undercooked for the first test. Who knows what goes on in the heads of selectors these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Wright View Post
    The Australian selectors aren't even trying anymore. Can't remember too many worse Australian 'A' sides than the one selected for South Africa.
    More a random PONI side than Aus A side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    Unless it is of course a plan not to give them a real game and try and hope they are undercooked for the first test. Who knows what goes on in the heads of selectors these days.
    Na I don't reckon, occam's razor etc. etc.

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    How's this for an Aussie 'B' side since they are likely not in the Test side but missed Aussie 'A' selection:

    1. Cosgrove
    2. Khawaja
    3. Ferguson
    4. Bailey
    5. Burns
    6. Christian
    7. Haddin
    8. O'Keefe (since Holland injured)
    9. Cutting
    10. Cummins
    11. Hazlewood

    Likely Test Side: Warner, Cowan, Watson, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, Wade, Siddle, Pattinson, Hilfenhaus, Lyon/Starc

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