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harsh.skm 29-09-2012 04:52 AM

Greg Chappell vs Ricky Ponting?
 
Who was the better batsman according to you guys?

uvelocity 29-09-2012 05:12 AM

jade derpbach

kyear2 29-09-2012 08:41 AM

Both top tier, but Chappell faced better bowlers and was one of only three batsmen to flourish in WSC. Also didn't have Hayden and Langer to demoralise the bowlers for him before he came in.
Fans of both though.

8ankitj 29-09-2012 09:50 AM

Question can be posed as who is the second greatest Australian batsman. Border, Waugh, Harvey etc can be thrown in the mix.

kyear2 29-09-2012 10:14 AM

Because of their minimalistic style of play I belive that we can take Border and Waugh out of that conversation.
Chappell, Ponting and Harvey. Then in the next group would be Waugh, Simpson, Border ect.

Monk 29-09-2012 12:42 PM

Chappell second best middle order Aust batsman by a small distance. Then throw a blanket over Border, Harvey, Ponting, McCabe, Hassett, Waugh etc.

Jager 30-09-2012 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monk (Post 2924802)
Chappell second best middle order Aust batsman by a small distance. Then throw a blanket over Border, Harvey, Ponting, McCabe, Hassett, Waugh etc.

I think I'd have to agree. I'd probably still take Harvey over Chappell though since it's so minimal for me, since he's a left-hander and can handle the stickies.

Prince EWS 30-09-2012 08:36 AM

If we're just talking Tests, Border for me. Ponting a fraction ahead of Chappell. It's all so close though that I'd take Chappell over both if we were to factor in his handful of WSC SuperTests.

doesitmatter 30-09-2012 12:41 PM

For overall awesome-ness against all kinda bowling and for the natural grace i am going for Chappell...

Monk 30-09-2012 02:10 PM

For my Australian XI I generally go...

Simpson
Trumper or Morris
Bradman
G.Chappell
Miller
Harvey
Gilchrist
Warne
Lillee
O'Reilly
McGrath


If I was to drop Miller (settle, fans....), it might look like this...


Simpson
Trumper or Morris
Bradman
G.Chappell
Harvey
Ponting or Border (hard to split, but probably Ponting between two LHs)
Gilchrist
Lindwall
Lillee
Warne or O'Reilly
McGrath

smalishah84 30-09-2012 06:11 PM

I think Ponting's playing way past his peak and being ****e in the last 3-4 years doesn't help his cause

kyear2 30-09-2012 06:43 PM

Viv had the same problem, but in the long run, people forget and it doesn't matter.

watson 30-09-2012 06:52 PM

In order in actually play in an ATG Test Match (assuming that were possible because someone somehow had invented a time machine) the ATG player could only be one specific age when they played the Test Match. In other words, Ricky Ponting or Viv Richards couldn't similtaneously be 36 years old and 28 years old at the same when they went out to face SF Barnes.

Instead, they would be batting at the height of their powers when they were both 28 years, 59 days and 7 hours old. Or whatever exact age was appropriate.

And just to make things slightly more confusing; if Ponting or Richards did face up to SF Barnes aged 28 years, 59 days and 7 hours old, then they wouldn't know what it means to be in decline because they wouldn't have yet experienced any Test Matches when they were 'old'.

Dan 30-09-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyear2 (Post 2924783)
Because of their minimalistic style of play I belive that we can take Border and Waugh out of that conversation.

Being boring means you're not a great batsman?

Monk 30-09-2012 07:16 PM

The more I consider it, the less I am inclined to include Miller in my all time Australian XI.

At present:

1. Bob Simpson
2. Arthur Morris
3. Don Bradman
4. Greg Chappell
5. Ricky Ponting
6. Neil Harvey
7. Adam Gilchrist
8. Ray Lindwall
9. Shane Warne
10. Dennis Lillee
11. Glenn McGrath


Like the combination of three left handers and four right handers in the top 7.
Like the L/R opening combo.
Bowling attack has serious venom, and is relentless.
Chappell and Simpson can both bowl if required.
Chappell and Simpson are probably the greatest slip fielders Australia has had. Ponting and Harvey two of the greatest in the cover/point areas. Bradman a very good cover fieldsman.


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