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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

AndyZaltzHair

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kiwiviktor81 said:
All-rounders ODI XI

1. Chris Gayle (9)
2. Nathan Astle (8)
3. Jacques Kallis (4)
4. AB de Villiers (wk)
5. Imran Khan (1)
6. Chris Cairns (3)
7. Glenn Maxwell (10)
8. Kapil Dev (2)
9. Lance Klusener (6)
10. Lance Cairns (7)
11. Daniel Vettori (5)
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Shakib and Flintoff walk in
 
Zinzan

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kiwiviktor81 said:
All-rounders ODI XI

1. Chris Gayle (9)
2. Nathan Astle (8)
3. Jacques Kallis (4)
4. AB de Villiers (wk)
5. Imran Khan (1)
6. Chris Cairns (3)
7. Glenn Maxwell (10)
8. Kapil Dev (2)
9. Lance Klusener (6)
10. Lance Cairns (7)
11. Daniel Vettori (5)
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Lance Cairns is a weird selection when you've not included Flintoff, Botham, Wasim & Hadlee to name a few.

Incidentally, after reading some on your posts in the last few days, I'm massively surprised you've included the likes of Astle and Kallis (and Imran) considering they all had SRs in the 70s, because even though you've said you don't mind a high average/lower SR up top, surely the likes of Jayasuriya who averages 2-3 less than Astle, but has a SR in the 90s would be more up you alley, if you're being philosophically consistent that is.
 
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kiwiviktor81

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Zinzan said:
Lance Cairns is a weird selection when you've not included Flintoff, Botham, Wasim & Hadlee to name a few.

Incidentally, after reading some on your posts in the last few days, I'm massively surprised you've included the likes of Astle and Kallis (and Imran) considering they all had SRs in the 70s, because even though you've said you don't mind a high average/lower SR up top, surely the likes of Jayasuriya who averages 2-3 less than Astle, but has a SR in the 90s would be more up you alley, if you're being philosophically consistent that is.
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It wasn't a well-thought out team, just solid batsmen in the top 5 and hitters all the rest of the way down.

Jayasuriya a very good choice, would probably pick him ahead of Astle, SR being the primary reason.

Interesting thing about Kallis is that it was him who got me onto the whole "SR is as important as average" thing. I ran a sim in which 11 Kapil Devs beat 11 Jacques Kallises. Something that made me realise was, if neither team is bowled out in an ODI, the one with the highest strike rate always wins.
 
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kiwiviktor81 said:
All-rounders ODI XI

1. Chris Gayle (9)
2. Nathan Astle (8)
3. Jacques Kallis (4)
4. AB de Villiers (wk)
5. Imran Khan (1)
6. Chris Cairns (3)
7. Glenn Maxwell (10)
8. Kapil Dev (2)
9. Lance Klusener (6)
10. Lance Cairns (7)
11. Daniel Vettori (5)
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Gilchrist
Jayasuriya
Watson
Symonds
MS Dhoni
Flintoff
O'Donnell
Razzaq
Shakib
Wasim
Pollock
 
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Red Hill said:
I've got no idea how people work out these era adjustments. But I do know that I watched Garner bowl in ODIs and he was near unplayable at times. So economical it was ridiculous. He had everything: height, express pace and that ****ing awkward angular thing going on that meant he was near impossible to hit in the air long.

God he was good, and he would be the best ODI bowler in any era.
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Statsguru - Choose the Bowling and ODI tabs, enter the desired Start and Finish dates, and then select Aggregate/Overall.

It then gives you the RPO etc etc for all bowlers for the 'Era' entered.
 
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AndyZaltzHair said:
WK XI ( in batting order)

1. Les Ames
2. Alan Knott
3. Syed Kirmani
4. Godfrey Evans
5. Jock Cameron
6. Don Tallon
7. Wally Grout
8. Jack Blackham
9. Bert Oldfield
10. Wasim Bari
11. Herbert Strudwick
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I think that a wicket-keeping purists XI needs Waite and Engineer opening.
 
Zinzan

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Updated my side from a few years back...

Alas Smith and Jones Test XI


Graeme Smith * 9265 @ 48.25
Chris Smith 392 @ 30.15
Andrew Jones 2922 @ 44..27
Steven Smith 3095 @ 55.05
Dean Jones 3631 @ 46.55
Robin Smith 4236 @ 43.67
Collie Smith (OS)1331 @ 31.69, 48 wk @ 33.85
Ian Smith +1815 @ 25.56, 168 catches
Simon Jones (RF) 59 wk @ 28.23
Ernest Smith (RF) 64 wk @ 29.02
Prior Smith (RF) 25 wk @ 30.04

12th Man: Mike Smith
Reverse Keeper: Geraint Jones
Coach: Alan Jones
Commentators: Griff Rhys Jones & Mel Smith
 
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Zinzan said:
Updated my side from a few years back...

Alas Smith and Jones Test XI


Graeme Smith * 9265 @ 48.25
Chris Smith 392 @ 30.15
Andrew Jones 2922 @ 44..27
Steven Smith 3095 @ 55.05
Dean Jones 3631 @ 46.55
Robin Smith 4236 @ 43.67
Collie Smith (OS)1331 @ 31.69, 48 wk @ 33.85
Ian Smith +1815 @ 25.56, 168 catches
Simon Jones (RF) 59 wk @ 28.23
Ernest Smith (RF) 64 wk @ 29.02
Prior Smith (RF) 25 wk @ 30.04

12th Man: Mike Smith
Reverse Keeper: Geraint Jones
Coach: Alan Jones
Commentators: Griff Rhys Jones & Mel Smith
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Old Ernie was a Jones, not a Smith. :)
 
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