The great 1980s all rounders

[Red]

Everyone here knows how good Botham was in that period, Redsok. Literally everyone.

 

[NotMcKenzie]

You are either dumb as hell, or utterly biased. Either way, it's embarrassing.. Sounds like some millennial horse****



You really just said BOTHAM was "not suited to carry the load of one of the 4 main bowlers or had the batting averages as ATG batsmen"??


Ian Botham was literally the best bowler and batsman for England, and no one carried MORE LOAD than him.. He was considered the greatest game changer, up until he suffered that back injury. That's when everything started to go downhill for him.

The problem with Botham, was his insane work load and the sheer number of games he kept on playing, filling BOTH roles as a batsman and bowler.

He was bowling mad amount of spells, as a fast bowler. Then batting.. winning games for his team. Utterly ridiculous


Ian Botham was the Fastest player to reach 1000 Test Runs and 100 Test Wickets. Botham did it in 21 games..



In Botham's first 25 Tests, he scored 6 hundreds and took 140 wickets. 14 5-wicket hauls and 3 10-wicket hauls. Then scored runs for fun, including centuries after centuries..


****hede 1980 is possibly the greatest feat by any cricketer. Just Ian Botham being Ian Botham..



HE WAS LITERALLY THE MAIN STRIKE BOWLER, AND THE MAIN BATSMAN.. That's not just an All Rounder, but the EPITOME of a complete all rounder. A freak of nature



There's a reason why Botham, Sobers and Imran are considered the Gods of All Rounders. Almost every single legends and players and everyone with proper knowledge, always has these 3 in their list. Not just the Greatest All Rounders, but the Greatest Cricketers, in general.




If Botham had not played so many games, doing so bloody much all at once.. at the extreme high level. Then he would have had a much better ending to his career. Especially those Final years. That's why "total average Numbers" don't tell the full story. Especially not when it comes to someone like him.



Context matters lad.. Don't act like a disrespectful child

ok

 

[the big bambino]

Tough but fair. Redsok saying out loud what we all need to hear.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Lmao that wankhede is censored

 

[bagapath]

Marshall averaged under 22.6 against every country and under 25 in every country.

I don't think Bradman's average of 89.78 against England is below par if you take into account the relative standard of the opposition. England were by far Australia's strongest opponents throughout his career.

Marshall averaged over 32 in New Zealand; although just one wicketless innings for 70 runs in his last outing there blew it up from 26 point something. three tests. nine wickets. small sample size. but he did give away 32 + runs/ wicket in New Zealand.

 

[ankitj]

Don't act like a disrespectful child

No one has earned the right to say this as much as you

 

[Migara]

Ian Botham was literally the best bowler and batsman for England, and no one carried MORE LOAD than him.

I was thinking more of Peter North.

 

[Flem274*]

You are either dumb as hell, or utterly biased. Either way, it's embarrassing.. Sounds like some millennial horse****



You really just said BOTHAM was "not suited to carry the load of one of the 4 main bowlers or had the batting averages as ATG batsmen"??


Ian Botham was literally the best bowler and batsman for England, and no one carried MORE LOAD than him.. He was considered the greatest game changer, up until he suffered that back injury. That's when everything started to go downhill for him.

The problem with Botham, was his insane work load and the sheer number of games he kept on playing, filling BOTH roles as a batsman and bowler.

He was bowling mad amount of spells, as a fast bowler. Then batting.. winning games for his team. Utterly ridiculous


Ian Botham was the Fastest player to reach 1000 Test Runs and 100 Test Wickets. Botham did it in 21 games..



In Botham's first 25 Tests, he scored 6 hundreds and took 140 wickets. 14 5-wicket hauls and 3 10-wicket hauls. Then scored runs for fun, including centuries after centuries..


****hede 1980 is possibly the greatest feat by any cricketer. Just Ian Botham being Ian Botham..



HE WAS LITERALLY THE MAIN STRIKE BOWLER, AND THE MAIN BATSMAN.. That's not just an All Rounder, but the EPITOME of a complete all rounder. A freak of nature



There's a reason why Botham, Sobers and Imran are considered the Gods of All Rounders. Almost every single legends and players and everyone with proper knowledge, always has these 3 in their list. Not just the Greatest All Rounders, but the Greatest Cricketers, in general.




If Botham had not played so many games, doing so bloody much all at once.. at the extreme high level. Then he would have had a much better ending to his career. Especially those Final years. That's why "total average Numbers" don't tell the full story. Especially not when it comes to someone like him.



Context matters lad.. Don't act like a disrespectful child

he was just another mediocre pom. had a few great games where he slogged a few runs and fluked some poles with the easy mode duke ball before reverting to the natural state of the english sportsman - remarkable only in how unremarkable they are.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I was thinking more of Peter North.

Was he an all-rounder? haven't heard of him. Could you post some links to videos now I'm curious

 

[Migara]

Was he an all-rounder? haven't heard of him. Could you post some links to videos now I'm curious

Ah yes he was . . . And probably he still is.