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    To me, picking points in a player's career to paint him in better light than his entire career does smacks more of stats-mongering than anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G.I.Joe View Post
    To me, picking points in a player's career to paint him in better light than his entire career does smacks more of stats-mongering than anything else.
    I'd agree, but equally with someone like Waqar the whole of his career up until his injury was borderline superhuman & when he came back he was still an effective test perfromer, but had lost some of his previous nip.

    It's not stats-mongering to my way of thinking to say he was an AT great bowler prior to an injury and merely a very good one thereafter. I'd say to solely judge a player's merit on their overall average devoid of context is closer to what I'd understand by the term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    I'd agree, but equally with someone like Waqar the whole of his career up until his injury was borderline superhuman & when he came back he was still an effective test perfromer, but had lost some of his previous nip.
    Not really. Waqar was pretty ineffective on a lot of important tours after 98.- India 99, West Indies 00, England 01 and South Africa 02.

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    i think Brumby is talking about Waqar's major back injury in 1994. Waqar was pretty good from 1994-98
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