Ignorant or what?

[fredfertang]

I accept that Gerard Brophy is not a proper Yorkshireman but, having said that, he has been playing for the county since 2006 and you would have thought therefore that he might just have picked up on a few of the county's traditions.

Saj Mahmood has no such excuse, born in Bolton he's a bona fide Lancastrian and has played for the county for a decade

Now I do accept that I am a sad bastard, and even I had to look up the exact total of County Championship wins that the two counties have between them, which is 37 (30 to 7 in Yorkshires favour) or 39 (31/8) if you count shared titles but .............

There's a little quiz feature in "The Cricketer" every month where they ask a couple of County cricketers a few questions and, it has to be said, the general lack of knowledge of the games history and traditions is surprising, but Saj and Brophy absolutely amazed me with that question - this is the conversation:-

Saj - three

Brophy - No, its got to be more than that - I reckon seven

Saj - never

Narrator - You're both way out

Saj - so what's the answer then

Narrator - 37, Out of interest which of the two has won the most?

Saj - It's got to be Lancashire

Narrator - Wrong

Brophy - In that case, Yorkshire

............. or is it all just a wind up?

 

[Howe_zat]

All they need to know is that Lancashire not winning it is the finest tradition the CC has left.

 

[GIMH]

I wouldn't expect them to necessarily get the combined totals right - but they should know their own counties...

 

[GIMH]

Saj Mahmood has no such excuse, born in Bolton he's a bona fide Lancastrian and has played for the county for a decade

Saj Mahmood has no such excuse, born in Bolton

born in Bolton

Bolton

I think I've got to bottom of why Mahmood is such an ignorant ****

 

[superkingdave]

Saj has never struck me as the sharpest tool in the box

 

[Jacknife]

All they need to know is that Lancashire not winning it the finest tradition the CC has left.

 

[fredfertang]

I wonder how they'd have got on if asked how many wooden spoons Lancs and Yorks had between them and who had the most of those

 

[BoyBrumby]

As a fan with some anorakish tendencies it does mildly irk me that some players are seemingly indifferent to the history of our sport.

On IJL Trott's cricinfo profile it mentions that he's related to his Victorian (in both senses) namesakes Albert & Harry somehow, but he has no idea the exact nature of their consanguinity. If I had even the hint of a first class never mind test cricketer amongst my forebears I'd be cracking the genalogy sites until I knew how they slot into the family tree.

Ftr 3 Brumbys have profiles on Cricket Archive, but a solitary game for the Tasmanian Colts v their WA equivalents is the height of their achievements. My possible Tasmanian cousin Michael scored 2 & 2* and took 0/29 in the first innings.

 

[Daemon]

I hate cricket archive. 3 of my team mates who played in the same match as me have it recorded down there but I don't

 

[fredfertang]

On IJL Trott's cricinfo profile it mentions that he's related to his Victorian (in both senses) namesakes Albert & Harry somehow, but he has no idea the exact nature of their consanguinity. If I had even the hint of a first class never mind test cricketer amongst my forebears I'd be cracking the genalogy sites until I knew how they slot into the family tree.

According to Harry and Albert's biographer - a book in which our very own Archie Mac gets a credit , they aren't related at all, which probably explains our favourite saffer's reluctance to log on to ancestry.com

 

[BoyBrumby]

According to Harry and Albert's biographer - a book in which our very own Archie Mac gets a credit , they aren't related at all, which probably explains our favourite saffer's reluctance to log on to ancestry.com

Ah, that would explain how his maternal genes seem to be responsible for the cricketing prowess. His (much) elder half-brother was also an FC cricketer, but lacked the English qualification Jonathan gained from Trott sr.

Kudos to arch too. Very cool indeed.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Conversation at school last week.

Staff member: "Garry Sobers is coming for a visit next week."
Aussie Gap student: "Who?"
Me: "****. First you don't know who the MCC are, and now this. Heard of Bradman?"

 

[benchmark00]

Most casual cricket fans outside of England wouldn't know what MCC stands for itbt. In Australia basically everyone would assume they meant Melbourne Cricket Club.

 

[Prince EWS]

Most casual cricket fans outside of England wouldn't know what MCC stands for itbt. In Australia basically everyone would assume they meant Melbourne Cricket Club.

Haha yeah, have had this happen to me a few times at Saturday cricket while trying discussing the laws of the game.

 

[Manee]

I think I've got to bottom of why Mahmood is such an ignorant ****

Absolutely love how you did that.

 

[marc71178]

Just read the article. Would I be right in thinking the magazine had the incorrect answer for number 5?

 

[fredfertang]

I thought that but in fact it seems they're right

 

[marc71178]

Well I can think of at least one batsman who played for France and has more Test runs.

 

[fredfertang]

I took the question as meaning played Tests for England - presumably you're including others?

 

[marc71178]

Yes, probably a bit pedantic but if I'd been asked that question the first answer I'd have given wouldn't have been an Englishman.