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Kieron Pollard

shivfan

Banned
Well, Pollard has been true to his word where Trinidad is concerned, and he's currently playing for them in the Caribbean domestic 20/20 competition....

That means he misses Somerset's match against Surrey today, and will probably miss their quarter-final against Northants on Tuesday. So, the Somerset contract wasn't so exclusive after all, eh?

In the end, it seems Pollard is more keen on playing 20/20 cricket than the longer versions of the game, despite his claims that he wants to play Test cricket. It's okay to break his contract with SOmerset to play 20/20 cricket for Trinidad, but it's not okay to break his contract to play ODI cricket for the West Indies A team....
8-)
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Well for a start, WI A don't play ODIs, and presumably you've seen his contract with Somerset to say exactly period of time and games it was for? I can't imagine it would include the 40 over game today, what with only 1 O/S player being allowed in that competition and that being Kartik. Also, since Somerset named 3 overseas players in their squad and only 2 being able to be registered at any time (with some sort of 10 day deregistration period which actually caught them out) - maybe when this came out they reached an amicable agreement not to keep him when White became available after Australian duty?

Or maybe the original contract was only for the group games with his knowledge of other commitments when he signed the contract.
 

Rant0r

International 12th Man
Having watched a couple of 50 over games he played against Australia he actually looks like he has a bit of composure at the crease and a good base to work with. Brilliant fielder and handy dibbly dobbly bowler. But I reckon he lacks the desire. It's far easier to travel around playing McCricket then bagging out the WICB, which seems to be the topic of choice in that group of countries among aspiring and current national cricketers these days
 

Rant0r

International 12th Man
Actually I don't think he has a choice who he plays for in the Champions League either, The IPL franchises have first choice as far as i'm aware
 

Uppercut

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Well, Pollard has been true to his word where Trinidad is concerned, and he's currently playing for them in the Caribbean domestic 20/20 competition....

That means he misses Somerset's match against Surrey today, and will probably miss their quarter-final against Northants on Tuesday. So, the Somerset contract wasn't so exclusive after all, eh?

In the end, it seems Pollard is more keen on playing 20/20 cricket than the longer versions of the game, despite his claims that he wants to play Test cricket. It's okay to break his contract with SOmerset to play 20/20 cricket for Trinidad, but it's not okay to break his contract to play ODI cricket for the West Indies A team....
8-)
It's not okay for someone to prefer T20 to test cricket?
 

Beamer

International Vice-Captain
Well, Pollard has been true to his word where Trinidad is concerned, and he's currently playing for them in the Caribbean domestic 20/20 competition....

That means he misses Somerset's match against Surrey today, and will probably miss their quarter-final against Northants on Tuesday. So, the Somerset contract wasn't so exclusive after all, eh?

In the end, it seems Pollard is more keen on playing 20/20 cricket than the longer versions of the game, despite his claims that he wants to play Test cricket. It's okay to break his contract with SOmerset to play 20/20 cricket for Trinidad, but it's not okay to break his contract to play ODI cricket for the West Indies A team....
8-)
How many times do I have to tell you that the TTCB negotiated with Somerset as soon as the T20 tournament was announced. The WICB however, went in at the last minute and asked him to join the A team.

Pollard and his representatives took exception to this as they felt they had made a commitment to Somerset and wanted to keep it.

You obviously have a bee in your bonnet about this issue as this must be the 3rd time I have told you this.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
How will Pollard figure in comparison with Gayle and Bravo? Gayle is surely a superior batsman, and useful as a restrictive, yet deceptive spinner. Bravo isn't that far ahead a bowler, but still a full bowler and seems more useful across formats. That may just shut out Pollard from Tests and possibly ODIs, so he can then consolidate his position as a T20 specialist and utility player for ODIs when needed. He's not terrible, but with two clearly superior and more reliable options at hand, he doesn't have much of a chance outside his best format.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
How will Pollard figure in comparison with Gayle and Bravo? Gayle is surely a superior batsman, and useful as a restrictive, yet deceptive spinner. Bravo isn't that far ahead a bowler, but still a full bowler and seems more useful across formats. That may just shut out Pollard from Tests and possibly ODIs, so he can then consolidate his position as a T20 specialist and utility player for ODIs when needed. He's not terrible, but with two clearly superior and more reliable options at hand, he doesn't have much of a chance outside his best format.
If he's going to play Tests it's going to basically need to be as a specialist batsman. I think he has it in him to do it if he develops more but he's not there yet.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
If he's going to play Tests it's going to basically need to be as a specialist batsman. I think he has it in him to do it if he develops more but he's not there yet.
That will confuse him a lot. He'll be a full-fledged all-rounder in T20, a bits-and-pieces player in ODIs and a frontline batsman in Tests. That can confuse him to the point of underperforming. They'd do well to hollow out that place for a proper specialist batsman.

p.s. Who's that in the photo? Just thought I'd ask...it's been a while since the last time I checked in
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
That will confuse him a lot. He'll be a full-fledged all-rounder in T20, a bits-and-pieces player in ODIs and a frontline batsman in Tests. That can confuse him to the point of underperforming. They'd do well to hollow out that place for a proper specialist batsman.

p.s. Who's that in the photo? Just thought I'd ask...it's been a while since the last time I checked in
I may be wrong but I don't think Pollard works too much on his bowling; I think he just rolls out there with it and tries to chip in playing smart cricket with it (which he's good at). His batting is what he should be working on and if it develops properly there's no reason he can't be a decent Test five or six, IMO. He averages over 37 with the bat in bowler-friendly West Indian First Class cricket with three tons in 20 games, which is certainly one of the better emerging records from batsmen outside the team currently. I've never really considered him an allrounder at any level really; he's a batsman who can contribute with the ball. That's what he should be picked as - Paul Collingwood for example.

Oh, and she put it there herself. I like it though so I left it. I'll tell her you asked. :p
 

shivfan

Banned
How many times do I have to tell you that the TTCB negotiated with Somerset as soon as the T20 tournament was announced. The WICB however, went in at the last minute and asked him to join the A team.

Pollard and his representatives took exception to this as they felt they had made a commitment to Somerset and wanted to keep it.

You obviously have a bee in your bonnet about this issue as this must be the 3rd time I have told you this.
That's a poor excuse....

If he really wanted to play for the Windies, he would've been aware that A team tours could happen at any time, and that he was eligible for them. Hell, I knew these tours were possible, and I was among several posters on caribbeancricket.com expecting Pollard to be selected for the A team!
8-)
Now, the WICB is making their criteria clear....

WICB ties national selection to regional tournaments | West Indies Cricket News | Cricinfo.com

'Players must, barring "exceptional circumstances", participate in regional cricket when not representing West Indies," a board statement said. Most recently, Kieron Pollard, the West Indies allrounder, opted to skip an A tour to England and chose instead to play for Somerset. Though Pollard's case did not involve a regional competition, the criteria is aimed at having the top players feature in the domestic tournaments and remain in contention for selection into the national squad.'

It's not often that I agree with the WICB, but they are totally right to not offer Pollard a retainer contract, if Pollard continues to prefer playing 20/20 cricket for teams like Somerset over playing for the West Indies A team....
 

Bun

Banned
Already 2 fifties in 3 matches for SA in the Big Bash @ SR of 200 plus!
Add to that 4 wickets at a measly ER of 5.33.

This guy is some serious t20 talent indeed! Sobers of T20?
 

shivfan

Banned
Already 2 fifties in 3 matches for SA in the Big Bash @ SR of 200 plus!
Add to that 4 wickets at a measly ER of 5.33.

This guy is some serious t20 talent indeed! Sobers of T20?
Very possibly....

It would be good to see if he can translate that form into the 50-overs game. He's in the list of 30 probables for the WI squad.
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Already 2 fifties in 3 matches for SA in the Big Bash @ SR of 200 plus!
Add to that 4 wickets at a measly ER of 5.33.

This guy is some serious t20 talent indeed! Sobers of T20?
I think Sobers is a actually a fair comparison. Pollard is pretty much the first name on my team sheet when naming the best T20 team currently.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I think Sobers is a actually a fair comparison. Pollard is pretty much the first name on my team sheet when naming the best T20 team currently.
While that may be true, it definitely shows the importance and general weighting of domestic competitions in the T20 world given how dire he's been for the West Indies in the format.
 

Daemon

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You can't have Pollard, Gayle and Bolt in the same room without it exploding from the coolness
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
While that may be true, it definitely shows the importance and general weighting of domestic competitions in the T20 world given how dire he's been for the West Indies in the format.
Yeah I didn't even bother looking up his statz for the Windies. Just by watching his impact for SA and in the IPL, he's just so dangerous in the shortest format.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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While that may be true, it definitely shows the importance and general weighting of domestic competitions in the T20 world given how dire he's been for the West Indies in the format.
Victim of his own hype. He batters all comers in the semi-exposure of domestic tournaments, but when under the spotlight of international cricket, and representing his team (i.e. not a hired gun) he cracks. Probably doesn't help too that he's usually just asked to slog, rather than have faith placed in his batting sense.

His best international batting came in that ODI series against Australia where he more often than not had time to build an innings. Showed that he can bat sensibly and mix brain with brawn. If only people would back him to do that more often. Not everyone thrives as a Klusener.
 

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