Ed Joyce seeks early return to Ireland

vic_orthdox · 02-06-2010, 01:29 AM

Ed Joyce confirms Ireland ambitions

Misses out by a small amount by qualification, so Ireland are seeking an exemption under the "special circumstances" clause.

Here's hoping that he gets it granted.

ECB's response:

Quote:

Hugh Morris, Managing Director of England Cricket wished Joyce all the best on his return to Ireland colours saying: "While we are naturally disappointed to lose a player of Ed's calibre from our pool of potential England players, we entirely respect and understand the reasons behind his decision. Ed is a player of proven international quality who played an important role in England's Commonwealth Bank Series win over Australia in 2007 and we wish him well in his future career with Ireland."

GIMH · 02-06-2010, 03:40 AM

Bloody Ireland, stealing all of our players

Uppercut · 02-06-2010, 03:41 AM

Yeah, that'd be great if he could return early. Can't see why the ICC would object.

_Ed_ · 02-06-2010, 03:41 AM

Everyone wins. Hope it happens.

Marcuss · 02-06-2010, 03:43 AM

Would we actually lose him from our player pool though? Couldn't we just pick him again if we, and he, wanted to?

Athlai · 02-06-2010, 04:28 AM

Yeah really hope this happens.

Somerset · 02-06-2010, 05:43 AM

Whilst I admit that Irish cricket would be the better for Joyce's return, it seems a bit farcical that a player can make their international debut for one country, get selected and represent another, and then return to that initial country. If he then hits a tremendous run of form can England then select him for their national side again? As I say, it'd be beneficial for Irish cricket to have him back but I'm just a bit sceptical of players coming and going with regards to their international side.

four_or_six · 02-06-2010, 05:50 AM

Fingers crossed. I really think 2 years for a player going back to an associate country is sufficient.

I read that Hamish Marshall is also looking for the same exemption, I don't know if that would be supported by NZ cricket? I presume he's not likely to be picked by them again.

Days of Grace · 02-06-2010, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Somerset

Whilst I admit that Irish cricket would be the better for Joyce's return, it seems a bit farcical that a player can make their international debut for one country, get selected and represent another, and then return to that initial country. If he then hits a tremendous run of form can England then select him for their national side again? As I say, it'd be beneficial for Irish cricket to have him back but I'm just a bit sceptical of players coming and going with regards to their international side.

This.

There should at least be a standdown period. Or maybe I'm just being old-fashioned and wanted players to play for the country of their birth and all that. How 20th century of me.

marc71178 · 02-06-2010, 06:47 AM

4 years seems to me a reasonable stand-down period, how long do you want?!

_Ed_ · 02-06-2010, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by four_or_six

I read that Hamish Marshall is also looking for the same exemption, I don't know if that would be supported by NZ cricket? I presume he's not likely to be picked by them again.

They're welcome to him.

Athlai · 02-06-2010, 07:08 AM

Heck, we feel a little bad that you lost out on Morgan, you know what Ireland? You can have James as well.

Enjoy.

Sir Alex · 02-06-2010, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Somerset

Whilst I admit that Irish cricket would be the better for Joyce's return, it seems a bit farcical that a player can make their international debut for one country, get selected and represent another, and then return to that initial country. If he then hits a tremendous run of form can England then select him for their national side again? As I say, it'd be beneficial for Irish cricket to have him back but I'm just a bit sceptical of players coming and going with regards to their international side.

This.

English practise of robbing and discarding players of other countries at will (okay technically they are "choosing" to represent England, but let's not kid ourselves) is a disgrace to cricketing logic. Either they make Ireland part of England (in cricket) or prevent such stuff altogether.

Ed Joyce should not be given any reprieve here, and be a reminder to all those who seek easy pastures outside their country of birth. You make the decision with some permanency. It is not outsourcing or contract work.

Uppercut · 02-06-2010, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Alex

Either they make Ireland part of England (in cricket) or prevent such stuff altogether.

This sentence is undeniable proof that you have no clue what the hell you are talking about, and hence you should wade out of this debate.

GIMH · 02-06-2010, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Alex

This.

English practise of robbing and discarding players of other countries at will (okay technically they are "choosing" to represent England, but let's not kid ourselves) is a disgrace to cricketing logic. Either they make Ireland part of England (in cricket) or prevent such stuff altogether.

Ed Joyce should not be given any reprieve here, and be a reminder to all those who seek easy pastures outside their country of birth. You make the decision with some permanency. It is not outsourcing or contract work.

Just jog on hey

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_Ed_ Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Auckland, Aotearoa Posts: 19,111	Everyone wins. Hope it happens.

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Somerset Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 9,863	Whilst I admit that Irish cricket would be the better for Joyce's return, it seems a bit farcical that a player can make their international debut for one country, get selected and represent another, and then return to that initial country. If he then hits a tremendous run of form can England then select him for their national side again? As I say, it'd be beneficial for Irish cricket to have him back but I'm just a bit sceptical of players coming and going with regards to their international side.

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four_or_six Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,136	Fingers crossed. I really think 2 years for a player going back to an associate country is sufficient. I read that Hamish Marshall is also looking for the same exemption, I don't know if that would be supported by NZ cricket? I presume he's not likely to be picked by them again.

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Athlai Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wellywood, NZ Posts: 26,001	Heck, we feel a little bad that you lost out on Morgan, you know what Ireland? You can have James as well. Enjoy.

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