All-time Northern vs. Southern Hemisphere

Zinzan · 10-04-2010, 12:04 AM

What's your line-ups & who'd take out a 3 test series played in England?

I've gone with....

Northern Hemisphere XI;

Hobbs
Gavaskar
Richards/Headley
Tendulkar
Lara
Sobers
Imran (c)
Knott (wk)
Marshall
Murali
Trueman/Ambrose

Southern Hemisphere XI

B. Richards
Trumper
Bradman (c)
Ponting/ G Chappell
G Pollock
Kallis
Gilchrist (wk)
Hadlee
Warne
Lillee
McGrath

vcs · 10-04-2010, 12:10 AM

Probably Southern Hemisphere. The Northern Hemisphere seems to lack something in bowling resources compared to the Southern Hemisphere team.

vcs · 10-04-2010, 12:17 AM

Blah, clicked on the wrong option in the poll. Would like to have it changed.

Avada Kedavra · 10-04-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by vcs

Probably Southern Hemisphere. The Northern Hemisphere seems to lack something in bowling resources compared to the Southern Hemisphere team.

How so? Imran,Marshall,Trueman,Murali + Sobers is as good as Mcgrath,Hadlee,Warne,Lillee+ Kallis.

Avada Kedavra · 10-04-2010, 01:10 AM

NH bowling is better but SH batting is better because of Bradman.Very tough but went with NH.

vcs · 10-04-2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Avada Kedavra

How so? Imran,Marshall,Trueman,Murali + Sobers is as good as Mcgrath,Hadlee,Warne,Lillee+ Kallis.

Hmm.. yeah you're right. The batting order made it seem that way, perhaps. Then I think Gilchrist's batting could be the difference between the sides.

SeamUp · 10-04-2010, 02:02 AM

I guess some in the Southern hemisphere team would have felt unlucky to miss out...like Hayden, Border, Nourse,Donald, S.Pollock,Crowe and so on.

I'm sorry but SH has NH covered

Zinzan · 10-04-2010, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Avada Kedavra

NH bowling is better but SH batting is better because of Bradman.Very tough but went with NH.

How exactly do you figure NH have the stronger bowling line-up?

Honestly can't see how you can separate the attack of Trueman/Marshall/Imran/Murali + Sobers from McGrath/Hadlee/Lillee/Warne + Kallis. I reckon those bowling attacks pretty much cancel each other out with Bradman & Gilchrist giving SH a slight advantage overall.

Ikki · 10-04-2010, 02:07 AM

Would have Hayden instead of Trumper and Miller instead of Kallis. Batting will take a bit of a hit but still stronger than NH XI but the bowling will improve a lot. Lillee, McGrath. Hadlee and Miller for pace, and Warne for spin - 4 prong pace attack + spinner.

B. Richards
Hayden
Bradman (c)
Ponting/ G Chappell
G Pollock
Miller
Gilchrist (wk)
Hadlee
Warne
Lillee
McGrath

Zinzan · 10-04-2010, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ikki

Would have Hayden instead of Trumper and Miller instead of Kallis. Batting will take a bit of a hit but still stronger than NH XI but the bowling will improve a lot. Lillee, McGrath. Hadlee and Miller for pace, and Warne for spin.

B. Richards
Hayden
Bradman (c)
Ponting/ G Chappell
G Pollock
Miller
Gilchrist (wk)
Hadlee
Warne
Lillee
McGrath

Grrr, can't believe I forgot about Miller

, totally agree with that amendment. Would still have Trumper or even Morris > Hayden though.

Ikki · 10-04-2010, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by zinzan12

Grrr, can't believe I forgot about Miller

, totally agree with that amendment. Would still have Trumper or even Morris > Hayden though.

Might be cheating, but how about Bradman opening with Ponting and Chappell and 3/4?

Also Bob Simpson averaged about 55-56 as opener, so he's in with a shout.

Avada Kedavra · 10-04-2010, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by zinzan12

How exactly do you figure NH have the stronger bowling line-up?

Honestly can't see how you can separate the attack of Trueman/Marshall/Imran/Murali + Sobers from McGrath/Hadlee/Lillee/Warne + Kallis. I reckon those bowling attacks pretty much cancel each other out with Bradman & Gilchrist giving SH a slight advantage overall.

Marshall > Hadlee
Murali > Warne
Ambrose > Lillee but Lilllee > Trueman
Imran > Mcgrath
Sobers = Kallis or Kallis slightly > Sobers

All contentious but NH have a slightly stronger bowling line up.You are right about Gilly and Don giving SH a slight edge overall - in hindsight I would go for SH as well.

Zinzan · 10-04-2010, 02:14 AM

^ Miller replacing Kallis probably give SH a slight edge in bowling too

Avada Kedavra · 10-04-2010, 02:19 AM

Man for man

1. Hobbs > Barry
2. Gavaskar > Trumper
3. Bradman >>> Viv
4. Tendulkar > Ponting - do not want to start a debate-just my opnion
5. Lara > Pollock
6. Sobers better batsman than Miller but Miller is a better bowler.How do you compare ?
7. Gilchrist > Knott
8. Imran > Hadlee
9. Marshall > Lillee
10.Murali> Warne
11.Ambrose > Mcgrath

Zinzan · 10-04-2010, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Avada Kedavra

Marshall > Hadlee
Murali > Warne
Ambrose > Lillee but Lilllee > Trueman
Imran > Mcgrath
Sobers = Kallis or Kallis slightly > Sobers

Or the another way to look at it is ranking them all which for me would be;

1) Marshall
2) Hadlee
3) Ambrose/McGrath
4) Lillee
5) Imran
6) Miller (sorry I've stolen Miller off Ikki & dropped Kallis

)
7) Sobers

Can't separate Warne & Murali, both have good records in England.

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10-04-2010, 12:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
Zinzan Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: cover point Posts: 9,740	All-time Northern vs. Southern Hemisphere What's your line-ups & who'd take out a 3 test series played in England? I've gone with.... Northern Hemisphere XI; Hobbs Gavaskar Richards/Headley Tendulkar Lara Sobers Imran (c) Knott (wk) Marshall Murali Trueman/Ambrose Southern Hemisphere XI B. Richards Trumper Bradman (c) Ponting/ G Chappell G Pollock Kallis Gilchrist (wk) Hadlee Warne Lillee McGrath

10-04-2010, 02:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ikki International Coach Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Death Queen Island Posts: 12,053	Would have Hayden instead of Trumper and Miller instead of Kallis. Batting will take a bit of a hit but still stronger than NH XI but the bowling will improve a lot. Lillee, McGrath. Hadlee and Miller for pace, and Warne for spin - 4 prong pace attack + spinner. B. Richards Hayden Bradman (c) Ponting/ G Chappell G Pollock Miller Gilchrist (wk) Hadlee Warne Lillee McGrath __________________ I think there'll sooner be another Bradman than another Warne. - Gidgeon Haigh [Warne is] the greatest bowler ever produced in this entire world - Muttiah Muralidaran [Warne is] the greatest bowler of all time - Glenn McGrath In my opinion Shane Warne is the greatest cricketer who's ever lived - Ian Botham Warne is the greatest cricketer to pick up a ball ever. And is the greatest bowler I have ever laid eyes on. - Brian Lara Last edited by Ikki; 10-04-2010 at 02:09 AM.

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10-04-2010, 12:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
vcs International Coach Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: India Posts: 10,305	Probably Southern Hemisphere. The Northern Hemisphere seems to lack something in bowling resources compared to the Southern Hemisphere team.

10-04-2010, 12:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
vcs International Coach Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: India Posts: 10,305	Blah, clicked on the wrong option in the poll. Would like to have it changed.

10-04-2010, 01:10 AM	#5 (permalink)
Avada Kedavra Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 1,221	NH bowling is better but SH batting is better because of Bradman.Very tough but went with NH.

10-04-2010, 02:02 AM	#7 (permalink)
SeamUp State Vice-Captain Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Cape Town Posts: 1,246	I guess some in the Southern hemisphere team would have felt unlucky to miss out...like Hayden, Border, Nourse,Donald, S.Pollock,Crowe and so on. I'm sorry but SH has NH covered

10-04-2010, 02:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
Zinzan Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: cover point Posts: 9,740	^ Miller replacing Kallis probably give SH a slight edge in bowling too

10-04-2010, 02:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
Avada Kedavra Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 1,221	Man for man 1. Hobbs > Barry 2. Gavaskar > Trumper 3. Bradman >>> Viv 4. Tendulkar > Ponting - do not want to start a debate-just my opnion 5. Lara > Pollock 6. Sobers better batsman than Miller but Miller is a better bowler.How do you compare ? 7. Gilchrist > Knott 8. Imran > Hadlee 9. Marshall > Lillee 10.Murali> Warne 11.Ambrose > Mcgrath

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