Thanks SJS, very solid breakdown of Gavaskar's record indeed. I won't say he was FTB at all, but i just goes to show facing the WI quicks at their peak in bowler friendly conditions, no batsman could handle it.
I was very young when I was watched Miandad bat and he was already past his best by then. I've always been of the opinion that he was a great batsman and without him we never would've been as good as we were in the 80s. He is somewhat underrated, yes, but he is considered almost unanimously the best batsman Pakistan has ever produced, so I'm not so sure if anyone really criminally underrates him. The Pakistani umpire thing is no joke, they always favored him from all accounts.
This actually proves just how underrated Inzamam is/was.
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Forever 63* at the SCG
I think this is very unfair to say that he was favoured by Pakistani umpires. If you have really seen him playing you would know that at many occassions he was actually a victim of bad umpiring. He played more matches away from home and scored about 4400 runs with an average of 45.00, he scored 2 centuries in England, 2 in Australia, 2 in West Indies and 3 in New Zealand. He is the batsman, and perhaps the only batsman who was given out LBW 6 times in one series by indian umpires in 1979-80. When you talk about non-neutral umpiring, I would remind you that Indian and West Indian umpires had no better reputation than Pakistanis, so if Javed had this advantage then Sunil and Viv had same advantage. I personally think that all three have proved themselve great batsmen and its not fair to blame umpiring for their achievements.
Regarding Miandad's record against WI, Imran brings this up in his autobiography. From recollection he holds that any question marks over Miandad's ability should be shelved after he reeled off two hundreds against WI in WI during the famous 88 tour. IIRC he faced them again later in 92? But by then he was on the decline and not the player he had been, and his overall average fell to under 30.
Definitely Pakistan's best batsman, and one of the great middle order batsmen. In the 80s only Richards and Chappell were his betters, imo.
of course he wouldn't imran was an ego-centric **** of an alpha male after alleven Imran wouldn’t do.
edit: that doesn't mean miandad was a saint either - both of 'em were scheming, convining rat-arse truckers in their own ways...
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