Reverse Swing

[Migara]

Cannot believe that you can get coventional swing at 110k. If it occurs must be contrast swing. I bowled around 105k mark, +/- 5k may be with my medium pacers, but can get banana swing out of it. But the way it swings just depends on the release. I can bowl in swingers with seam pointing towards the slip (~15 degrees). Once I change the grip, release and action a little bit, starts swinging out. Convetional swing is heavily seam dependent, and rarely happens below 120k to best of my knowledge.

The banana swing which starts from the hand usually is conventional swing. The hooping latw swing is most of the time conventional or reverse.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Cannot believe that you can get coventional swing at 110k. If it occurs must be contrast swing. I bowled around 105k mark, +/- 5k may be with my medium pacers, but can get banana swing out of it. But the way it swings just depends on the release. I can bowl in swingers with seam pointing towards the slip (~15 degrees). Once I change the grip, release and action a little bit, starts swinging out. Convetional swing is heavily seam dependent, and rarely happens below 120k to best of my knowledge.

The banana swing which starts from the hand usually is conventional swing. The hooping latw swing is most of the time conventional or reverse.

I didn't think pace had anything to do with conventional swing...I bowled big inswingers when I was in under 15s, and I reckon would've been about 80-90kph at most. I'm pretty sure I wasn't reversing it...didn't even know what that was at the time. I knew if I point the rough-side in though it'd go. I've seen a number of guys do the same and none of them were over 120kph at the time either.

This was before there were 20 different names for individual types of swing bowling though

I also thought your wrist position at release determined how late it went. At least I'm reasonably sure that's what I've heard the commentators talking about on occasion.

 

[Jager]

Cannot believe that you can get coventional swing at 110k. If it occurs must be contrast swing. I bowled around 105k mark, +/- 5k may be with my medium pacers, but can get banana swing out of it. But the way it swings just depends on the release. I can bowl in swingers with seam pointing towards the slip (~15 degrees). Once I change the grip, release and action a little bit, starts swinging out. Convetional swing is heavily seam dependent, and rarely happens below 120k to best of my knowledge.

The banana swing which starts from the hand usually is conventional swing. The hooping latw swing is most of the time conventional or reverse.

I have to disagree with you there, 105km/h deliveries can generate large amounts of swing, for example:

Kumar Sangakkara bowling - YouTube

Sangakkara was bowling away swing at the most gentle of paces, between 100 and 105 if I remember correctly.

 

[Meridio]

Reverse swing is a lot more natural than people think IMO. It just occurs when one side of the ball becomes heavier than the other; due to the rough side losing leather and the shiny side gaining moisture. Both these things occur naturally when shining the ball to generate conventional swing.

Weight has nothing to do with reverse swing. It happens when the rough side gets to a certain level of roughness which changes the air flow over that side of the ball - it becomes turbulent rather than laminar, causing the flow to 'stick' to that half of the ball longer than it does on the shiny side. This results in different pressures acting on the two halves of the ball; hence there is a nett sideways force and therefore swing.

 

[smash84]

gravity has no bearing on reverse swing which is lateral movement hence weight of the ball has been ruled out

 

[Debris]

gravity has no bearing on reverse swing which is lateral movement hence weight of the ball has been ruled out

I believe that you have forgotten to take into account the position of the moon, which will clearly attract the ball towards it.

 

[smash84]

jupiter and the sun also exert their gravitational forces as do all other objects you know

watch reverse swing and drool

Wasim Akram traps Darren Lehmann with a reverse swinging yoker - YouTube

 

[Son Of Coco]

It's a scientifically proven fact that reverse swing happens when the ball finally realises it's gay. This usually happens somewhere between the 69th over and Elton John's house.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Hence why it's also known as Irish swing.

 

[slowfinger]

It's a scientifically proven fact that reverse swing happens when the ball finally realises it's gay. This usually happens somewhere between the 69th over and Elton John's house.

And If I don't see you again, Good Morning Good afternoon and Good Evening!

 

[smash84]

r u leaving CW?

 

[slowfinger]

r u leaving CW?

heck naw