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    Quote Originally Posted by JBH001 View Post
    Nice to see you doing one of these, bagapath.

    I was also thinking the other day, it would be nice to do a combined best ODI/Test XII. Therefore would have to select an all-time side for both formats of the game. I guess we would have to choose from players post ODI cricket, we wont be able to just assume that players like Bradman, Miller, Sobers would have flourished in ODI cricket (although it is likely that they would).

    Might be worth keeping that in reserve for some other time.
    JBH! combined xi for ODI and tests sounds pretty interesting. I can already imagine debates right at the top. sachin and gilchrist are obviously the openers for ODI but for tests? anyways, we will get to it soon.

    in the post packer world xi, as of now Suni Gavaskar looks like he is going to be the first opener for sure. Hayden and Greenidge are running neck to neck for the other slot.

    Gilchrist is sure to bag the wicket keeping job.

    the middle order is going to be one hell of a selection.

    i am thinking of using stats from specific batting slots and not combine all middle order positions. let me know if thats ok with you. i will keep 3,4, and 5 specific. and use no.6 for choosing an additional batsman or an all-rounder. also, after choosing two opening bowlwers and one spinner, we will have the rest of bowlers available for fourth bowling slot. it worked well last time.

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    couple of years ago, it used to take four days for getting 30+ votes in a poll of this nature. this time, within a few hours 32 votes have come in for both polls. may be it is because this is a weekend. i guess we will be able to wrap this up soon and start the next two polls - for opening bowlers and spinner in a day or two.

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    Knott does not qualify?
    You know it makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
    Knott does not qualify?
    no archie mac.

    he didnt play much after packer circus finished on Apr 10, 1979.

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    guys... before i start the poll for the bowlers, i want to redefine the cut-off to limit the number of candidates. thinking of keeping avg < 30, wickets > 100, econ rate < 3, bowling strike rate < 60 for fast bowlers and strike rate < 72 for spinners. off the top of my my head i can say waqar, akhthar, lee, vaas, kapil and caddick wont be on the list. let me know if this is okay for everyone. i just dont want to give more than 30 options while trying to choose 2 of the very best.

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    Mate I think you can set whatever criteria you choose. Of those guys you listed, I think only Waqar might be unlucky to miss out, and Kapil to an extent as well. The others are by no means poor, but I don't honestly think they belong in this discussion.
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    I think maybe Waqar deserves a spot though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    I think maybe Waqar deserves a spot though.
    yeah.

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    Gavaskar and Hayden have practically sealed the opening slots. Unless eight guys come out and vote for greenidge, hayden has beaten him fair and square. with 49 votes already in, i dont see this scenario changing.

    Gilly has won the WK's poll by a mile.

    I've just posted the poll for opening bowlers. kept 25 runs as the cut off for bowling average and 100 wickets as minimum requirement. Am gonna watch the discussion before making up my mind.

    Team so far...

    1. S.M. Gavaskar
    2. M.L. Hayden
    3. batsman
    4. batsman
    5. batsman
    6. top runner up batsman from other polls/ all-rounder
    7. A.C. Gilchrist (WK)
    8. pace bowler
    9. pace bowler
    10. spinner
    11. runner up pace bowler/ runner up spinner/ runner up all rounder

    Also going to start the spinner's poll. Planning to keep 35 runs as the cut off point and 100 wickets as min req.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagapath View Post
    Gavaskar and Hayden have practically sealed the opening slots. Unless eight guys come out and vote for greenidge, hayden has beaten him fair and square. with 49 votes already in, i dont see this scenario changing.

    Gilly has won the WK's poll by a mile.

    I've just posted the poll for opening bowlers. kept 25 runs as the cut off for bowling average and 100 wickets as minimum requirement. Am gonna watch the discussion before making up my mind.

    Team so far...

    1. S.M. Gavaskar
    2. M.L. Hayden
    3. batsman
    4. batsman
    5. batsman
    6. top runner up batsman from other polls/ all-rounder
    7. A.C. Gilchrist (WK)
    8. pace bowler
    9. pace bowler
    10. spinner
    11. runner up pace bowler/ runner up spinner/ runner up all rounder

    Also going to start the spinner's poll. Planning to keep 35 runs as the cut off point and 100 wickets as min req.
    Can we remove Warne and Murali from the spinners poll please? Pretend they're both unavailable for selection due to selectorial incompetance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    Kumble fan?
    Yes but that's not the reason.

    I'm a man of peace. I do not wish to start the third world war. So we'll give the Indians the spinners spot (although I'd vote for Qadir anyway, just cause he's awesome).

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    Yes but that's not the reason.

    I'm a man of peace. I do not wish to start the third world war. So we'll give the Indians the spinners spot (although I'd vote for Qadir anyway, just cause he's awesome).
    I don't get it. Warne and Murali are clearly the best spinners the world has seen. Kumble is a very distant third, and his away record is crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evermind View Post
    I don't get it. Warne and Murali are clearly the best spinners the world has seen. Kumble is a very distant third, and his away record is crap.
    His point is that arguments over which of the two is better has probably been the single greatest cause of flaming, trolling and general bitchiness in the history of CW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sean View Post
    His point is that arguments over which of the two is better has probably been the single greatest cause of flaming, trolling and general bitchiness in the history of CW.
    And any other cricket forum.

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