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    Marlon Samuels caught talking to bookies

    http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/indv...ry/279474.html


    He even admits he knew the guy, but he says he didn't know he was a bookie

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    Yeah was just gonna' make this thread... Here's another article on this...

    http://cricket.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1577784.cms

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    When I read the title of this thread I thought Hakon had been caught with his hands in the till...

    Surprised at you for not complaining, DB...

    Oh, yeah...

    EDIT: now that it's been corrected: it did read "Samuel caught... etc."
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    Uh-oh.

    Bodyline has nothing on Match Fixing as the biggest issue to ever hit cricket.

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    Just to say though, its not really match 'fixing'.

    "Amitesh Kumar, Nagpur's deputy police commissioner, said that Samuels was tapped giving information about the batting line-up and the bowling order.. He however said that the police had "no evidence about financial commitment made." The team details included the line-up and the bowling order, Kumar said."

    Its more akin to what Waugh did.

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    I'd characterize it as 'bookie-helping' .

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    Tbh, I can't see how the bookie knowing the batting line-up will help in a very big way at all.
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    I was going to say, if there's no financial gain then it's stupid not illegal.

    Here's a question, where does the line get drawn where a player's insider opinion of the lineup becomes giving information he shouldn't be giving?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    I'd characterize it as 'bookie-helping' .
    Did you really need 3 posts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dravid View Post
    Did you really need 3 posts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PY View Post
    I was going to say, if there's no financial gain then it's stupid not illegal.

    Here's a question, where does the line get drawn where a player's insider opinion of the lineup becomes giving information he shouldn't be giving?
    I think it's not that serious to give out a line up. But my question is, why would a bookie want to get out the lineup out of a player. Line ups 9 out of 10 times is what everyone else thinks it will be. I highly doubt thats all there is to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Bodyline has nothing on Match Fixing as the biggest issue to ever hit cricket.
    Well of course. To be very English for a second, Bodyline was not against the rules and nothing wrong took place. Was only an issue due to the crying Aussies.

    On the actual topic. Sounds dumb and unfortunate.

    BTW, The reason (possibly 1 of a few) why bookies pay for mundane information that the general public probably already knows is

    a) all information is an advantage and setting a line is an artform and a tiny bit of info is a help

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    b) the player thinks "this is easy cash for nothing" and then the bookie requests get more intrusive. This kind of payment is a way to suck players in. It is just too easy for players to give banal info and before they know it they are giving more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixFire View Post
    Tbh, I can't see how the bookie knowing the batting line-up will help in a very big way at all.
    Bets are made not just on who would win or lose but on loads of other things in cricket. What would the line up be can mean for certainty the bookie knows what the XI would be, who would open, etc.

    On what PY said btw, even if there is no financial gain, some thing can be illegal apart from being stupid.

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