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Greg Chappell– your opinion?

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
adharcric said:
I won't go by those stats. For me, if we're chasing a huge target we need to take the gamble and send Pathan (or Dhoni) early. Also, if we're batting first and the openers get off to a flying start and we need to maintain a RR of 5 or 6, we can consider that.
Dhoni I can understand, but Irfan has a strike rate of 75 @ no.3 while chasing and a career strike rate of 80 how is he a better option than Yuvraj @ no. 3 ?

Just becase we have been winning doesn't mean Irfan is a success @ no. 3. We are winning despite him batting @ 3 and not because of him batting @ 3.
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
Jono said:
I'd drop Sehwag and just directly replace him with Sachin. Dravid opening works IMO.
All Sehwag needs is a series against Pakistan. He'll be back to top form in no time after that!
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Sehwag has played 150 ODI's and averages only 31. This has been going on long enough so that it is no longer just a lean patch. He's Bevan in reverse, and I think the Indian selectors need to make him a test-match only player. Bring in someone else in his place, it's time for someone else to show what they can do.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
I know you said it in jest, but in all seriousness, Sehwag hasn't been 'in form' in ODIs since 2002. Scary thought that probably went passed everyone until around 2005 when people realised "Hey wait a minute, Sehwag's average is pitiful and he's not scoring runs." I think the sheer thought that he's such an aggressive batsman has fooled people for years into thinking he was a quality ODI batsman.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Jono said:
I know you said it in jest, but in all seriousness, Sehwag hasn't been 'in form' in ODIs since 2002. Scary thought that probably went passed everyone until around 2005 when people realised "Hey wait a minute, Sehwag's average is pitiful and he's not scoring runs." I think the sheer thought that he's such an aggressive batsman has fooled people for years into thinking he was a quality ODI batsman.
what would you suggest are the reasons for his failure in ODIs though? seems to me like he has the game to succeed and the only plausible reason i can come up with is the fact that hes given the license to be as aggressive as he wants as an opener in ODIs and hes misused that privelege extensively.
perhaps giving him more chances at no 4 might not be a bad idea given that hes had relative success in that position
 
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adharcric

International Coach
tooextracool said:
what would you suggest are the reasons for his failure in ODIs though? seems to me like he has the game to succeed and the only plausible reason i can come up with is the fact that hes given the license to be as aggressive as he wants as an opener in ODIs and hes misused that privelege extensively.
perhaps giving him more chances at no 4 might not be a bad idea given that hes had relative success in that position
We could certainly give it a shot, but Yuvraj and Raina are better middle-order options than Sehwag; Kaif might be. Sehwag has been failing far too often at the top and there is no point having promising players like Robin Uthappa and Shikhar Dhawan near the top if we're not going to give them a chance when they deserve it.

*hope i jinx sehwag*
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
And Sehwag scores a very exciting 96! Unlucky to miss out on a ton.

He always does that lol. Still there's obviously a problem. He needs to go back to being a very good ODI batsman rather than a dangerous one that can tear a team apart of make India 1/15 after 3 overs.

In regards to TEC's question, I think you hit the nail on the head. He was given freedom to play his shots from ball 1 and it made him a stupid player. The problem became more apparent however the more Sachin was missing from the ODI team.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
About Sehwag, you can't drop him or demote him just because he's had aslump in form. He's got the striking power that every other batsman in the side lacks, and can give the team a flying start, which is important when opposition teams score so quickly then against the Indians. They missed Sehwag in the Abu Dhabi ODI, when the pair of Dravid and Uthappa scratched at three an over, then both got out cheaply. Given his style, he's bound to get out early very often, but when he gets in, he can make quite an impact.

Having Irfan at three through seven is not such a bad idea, but he has to play to plan. His success against the Lankans late last year shows what he can do, when in good form. It's cynical to say that sending him avobe eight is like throwing a wicket away, because if you send in a specialist batsman, you could end up wasting several dot balls, when the opposition is scoring freely. He's had a good beginning so far, but still finding his feet, and worth continuing, even if not at three all the time. Moreover, they can also sneak in a fifth bowler, especially one like Powar or JP Yadav or Joginder Sharma or Bangar, who can also score a chunk of runs, coupled with Irfan's, which can make a difference.

The one thing they have got wrong is having Dravid opening the innings, especially in ODI's. Dravid is a slow scorer at the start. He is not even an opener. That will put excess pressure on Sehwag, already under pressure to score at a healthy strike rate. Moreover, if Dravid is out early, which will often happen if he opens, it's a big blow to the batting side. Instead, a Test opener at the top will serve the purpose better, and also keep the interest of the Test team safe. Not to mention, the persistence of Venugopal and Agarkar is questionnable, since the team can afford to replace both with players they need– a Test opener and a tearaway pacer or run-scoring medium-pacer.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
adharcric said:
We could certainly give it a shot, but Yuvraj and Raina are better middle-order options than Sehwag; Kaif might be. Sehwag has been failing far too often at the top and there is no point having promising players like Robin Uthappa and Shikhar Dhawan near the top if we're not going to give them a chance when they deserve it.
yuvraj and kaif are definetly better options. im not so convinced about raina though, hes only really had one good series. For me sehwag just needs to be given more responsibility, i think if he were to bat at 4 he might just be a little bit more patient.
 

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