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    Selection strategies by the opposite team?

    Ajit Wadekar says of his 1971 West Indies tour:

    Though our players are good players of spin, it was our strategy not to go after offspinner Jack Noreiga in the tour game in a bid to help him win a Test place in place of the more dangerous Lance Gibbs - and that was just what happened.

    Has that ever happened? The opposition players deliberatly made a player look good just so that he could be picked, and so they can belt him around in the real test match?

    I'm sure it has happened, but has anyone admitted to that?

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    Well Zim has recently been doing the first bit...

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    TBF to Noreiga he did take 9/95 in the first innings of the second test. Even LG might've struggled to match those figures.
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    You could say England tired their best to get Martin Love in the Australian side a couple years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker
    Ajit Wadekar says of his 1971 West Indies tour:

    Though our players are good players of spin, it was our strategy not to go after offspinner Jack Noreiga in the tour game in a bid to help him win a Test place in place of the more dangerous Lance Gibbs - and that was just what happened.

    Has that ever happened? The opposition players deliberatly made a player look good just so that he could be picked, and so they can belt him around in the real test match?

    I'm sure it has happened, but has anyone admitted to that?
    In any case - Gibbs was hardly that dangerous any more in 1971.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00
    You could say England tired their best to get Martin Love in the Australian side a couple years ago.
    Thing is, of course, when we succeeded Love still managed to get some in the MCG Test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Some would claim Shane Warne kidded people that he couldn't bowl to Graeme Hick in 1993.
    In his book, Warne said that Hick played him very well that day, but that Border had specifically ordered him not to bowl any variations, and to just bowl leg breaks. So I don't think Warne was letting Hick make runs, merely saving his best performances for the tests. Apparently he rates Hick quite highly as a batsman anyway. Along with Robin Smith he is the English batsman he praises the most.
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    Is that what got Munaf Patel a Test call-up against England? Surprisingly, he succeeded even there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    In his book, Warne said that Hick played him very well that day, but that Border had specifically ordered him not to bowl any variations, and to just bowl leg breaks. So I don't think Warne was letting Hick make runs, merely saving his best performances for the tests. Apparently he rates Hick quite highly as a batsman anyway. Along with Robin Smith he is the English batsman he praises the most.
    Which is weird given that Robin Smith was your archetypal hopeless SAffie\English spin-facer...
    The fact is, Warne was not letting anyone see the full repetoire... and for my mind that's kidding people that you can't bowl as well as you know you can.

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    Has anyone suggested yet that opposition players deliberately get out to Harmison?

    /genuinely curious
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    Nope.
    Has Harmison ever even played a tour-game when in serious consideration for a Test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richad
    Which is weird given that Robin Smith was your archetypal hopeless SAffie\English spin-facer...
    Probably has something to do with the Hampshire connection, wouldn't it?

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    Well... though I presume Robin is still pretty well involved with Hants in retirement, IIRR they only had 1 season on the staff together (2000).

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox
    Probably has something to do with the Hampshire connection, wouldn't it?
    Why would you big someone up just because you was once team-mates/work colleagues? Smith was a good player, sure crap player of spin but against pace he was one of the best around, Warne probably appreciated his talent against that not against him.

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